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Post by idelia412 on Jul 15, 2009 15:14:02 GMT -5
Hello, I am new to this message board want to share pictures of an Edison Diamond Disc Record Cabinet that has two glass break front doors and each level holds 80 discs for a total of 160 diamond discs. Has anyone seen this cabinet before? On the bottom of the cabinet is a tag which gives some informaton which I will show also. Any information would be helpful and interesting to know. The cabinet is in oak and it says Recreation on the tag. Thanks Pete    |
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Post by maroongem on Jul 15, 2009 18:01:24 GMT -5
Welcome aboard Pete!
Very nice barrister style cabinet, especially with the factory tag still remaining. I wish I could tell you more about it but I'm sure there is someone here that can give you more info. This is the 1st Edison tagged one that I've ever seen though and wasn't aware that they were offered, but I have machines with that same factory number though I don't know which factory had this number.
Bill
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Post by larryh on Jul 15, 2009 18:04:41 GMT -5
Great looking cabinet, would surely come in handy!
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Post by phonogfp on Jul 17, 2009 19:45:20 GMT -5
Pete,
Bill said everything I was thinking. Somewhere at the Edison National Historic Site in West Orange there must exist a list of those factory numbers and the corresponding companies and locations... I'm surprised that Edison had these manufactured, rather than their simply being an aftermarket item. Thanks for sharing this - -
George P.
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Post by maroongem on Jul 18, 2009 5:47:15 GMT -5
Pete, Bill said everything I was thinking. Somewhere at the Edison National Historic Site in West Orange there must exist a list of those factory numbers and the corresponding companies and locations... I'm surprised that Edison had these manufactured, rather than their simply being an aftermarket item. Thanks for sharing this - - George P. George, I think this would be a great addition to the next accessories book!!! Bill |
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Post by idelia412 on Jul 18, 2009 15:11:33 GMT -5
Thanks to all those who have responded to this post. The cabinet was acquired in Baltimore from a very early record collector probably over 30 years ago. I have never seen another one like it. If you look close the cabinet knobs seem to date this to the 1920's and it also says on the tag "Recreation". If anyone else knows anything about this cabinet, it would be nice to hear from them.
Pete
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Post by phonogfp on Jul 18, 2009 15:21:00 GMT -5
Yikes!
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Post by maroongem on Jul 18, 2009 17:31:44 GMT -5
Thanks to all those who have responded to this post. The cabinet was acquired in Baltimore from a very early record collector probably over 30 years ago. I have never seen another one like it. If you look close the cabinet knobs seem to date this to the 1920's and it also says on the tag "Recreation". If anyone else knows anything about this cabinet, it would be nice to hear from them. Pete Pete, Edison trade marked the word 'Re-Creation" Feb, 1916 according to Frow. Where you have the same red leatherette edges on the dividers as found his DD machines from 1919, you could use that as the earliest perhaps. In late '22, he called his discs "RECORDS," changed from the earlier "Re-Creation." None of this of course means this is when your cabinet was made, but is a "guestimate" only. Bill |
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Post by estott on Jul 19, 2009 7:20:20 GMT -5
That is a very nice one- I believe I've seen one with solid wood panels in place of the glass.
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Post by matty on Jul 19, 2009 8:50:16 GMT -5
According to Frow's book, these were made between 1916 & 1922, and the door pulls/knobs, are the same as are found on the C450 "Adam" console. Whether Frow came to these dates due to the tags, or if advertising exists, I guess we'll never know. I've also seen one or two with wood panels (which looked original in the photo) but whether these were later replacements for broken glass I dont know. I know with my butter fingers, I would have prefered nice safe wooden panels myself  Unfortunately, the list of cabinet makers in Frows book does not mention which factory made the C450, but it would be interesting to know if they too came from Cabinet Factory No.18. |
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Post by maroongem on Jul 19, 2009 9:28:31 GMT -5
Which knobs are you referring to on the C-450? I wasn't aware that the C-450 had doors on the front. The ones I've seen didn't have record storage in the front but were stored via opening the lid.
Rocky I believe has a C-450 if my memory serves.
Bill
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Post by matty on Jul 19, 2009 10:06:16 GMT -5
LOL, my mistake. The book actually says C200 Adam machine. I read that yesterday, then tonight I flicked through the book and saw the C450 "Adam" which appears to have oval sunburst knobs on the fake drawers above the grilles  ;D Thanks for correcting that Bill! |
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Post by rocky on Jul 19, 2009 11:20:34 GMT -5
I find it quite awkward to insert/remove diamond discs from the slots in the left compartment of the C-450. I'm afraid of scratching or dropping them. Even though there are slots for 47 records, I only keep eight in the storage section. I would guess that keeping DDs in paper sleeves is probably the safety way to handle them.
Rocky
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Post by maroongem on Jul 19, 2009 17:06:29 GMT -5
Shane, I see what your saying about the pull on the C-200. They look exactly like the ones on the above cabinet.
I think Matt has a C-200 and perhaps he can get a better shot of his pull and even check to see if his machine still has the paper factory tag.
The cabinet tag has what I assume is a model number (1011) and I would imagine was in some type of catalog, but perhaps only through a dealer.
So many questions with Edison related material and few answers in many areas.........................
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Post by idelia412 on Jul 20, 2009 6:51:17 GMT -5
I have the book by Frow on Edison Diamond Discs and the only mention of anything about cabinets that I read was near the back of the book entitled "Filing Systems." It talks mostly of filing systems for the phonographs but near the end it makes reference to a sales promotion of a two-drawer filing cabinet with Edison Index Filing Device sold in April 1921. " Each cost the company$33.30 in quartered oak and $37.35 in mahogany. Orders for 600 in mahogany and 400 oak were placed with the Wisconsin Cabinet and Panel Company, but takers were few and all were cleared out years later at under half the cost price." I don't think one of these is mine as it says cabinet with drawers but is the closest thing Frow mentions. It on page 196. Maybe I overlooked something on another page but that is the only reference I could find about an Edison Record Cabinet. I have seen a record cabinet with two drawers in mahagony but is totally different than my cabinet and nothing attached to it ties it to Edison.
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