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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2007 20:25:28 GMT -5
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Post by maroongem on Feb 3, 2007 1:35:22 GMT -5
Paul,
That's basically what that record is worth. There is no real collector value for this disc, this is a "niche" record, ie; someone would have to be looking for it.
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2007 5:45:18 GMT -5
So the higher priced discs are more collectable?
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Post by maroongem on Feb 3, 2007 9:56:28 GMT -5
Paul. Like any type of music, it's all a matter of taste. Two people could want that record and it could turn into a bidding war. The electrically recorded are always sought after, some more than others because of content. The latter 51000 series seem to do well, again content is key. Foxtrots sell better than a solo say by Walter Van Brunt in the same series. If it's worth anything, it won't go cheap on Ebay. You had better be prepared to pay because of the competition. That recent VDL record isn't really a good example though, just two fools that wanted the disc. Bill
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Post by rocky on Feb 3, 2007 15:29:05 GMT -5
I've never heard the Stella Powers record, but I suspect that I wouldn't like it, and therefore I wouldn't pay anything for it. If I were to inadvertently end up with a copy of it, I would give it away. While I do look for bargains on Ebay and find them, I have no problem paying $10-$20 for a good dance band DD if that's what it takes. When you consider that good dance band DDs often fall within this price range, you have to accept the reality that that's what they're worth. In the final analysis, the value of an Edison DD lies in direct proportion to how much happiness we get from listening to the record! Rocky
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2007 16:00:50 GMT -5
When I first got into this field, back in November, I had no idea that there were other fans and colletors of Edsion Disc Phonographs, and Diamond discs. I though this was a small area of interest in and not too many people would be collecting DD's. So I figured I woud have no problem getting discs, even from Ebay. Boy, was I ever wrong. It wasn't until I joined this board, and the OTVMMB that I realized how many other collectors and fans there were. Since I am still realitively new to this filed, and have not been exposed to what's out there, and to what I like. I have been buying discs when I find them, regradless of what's on them. Also becuse, there really aren't to many people who collect them in my area, at least none that I have met. Just to be able to find DD's in and around where I live, is like finding gold. I'm sure as my collection continues to grow, and I become, more familiar with the music, then I will be more decerning with my discs. For now though, I am quite content to be able to find a disc, and hope that it works. I have been rather fortuneate, in only haveing 4 out of 27 discs be unplayable, whihc is really not so bad.
I am going to rely on you guys, to healp me out, so I know you won't mind, me asking a lot of questions?
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Post by rocky on Feb 3, 2007 19:07:29 GMT -5
Paul, I'm not an expert, but I'm always happy to share any knowledge I have with others.
I suspect that we are indeed few and far between. I don't know if anyone really knows how many of us are actually out there. However, when competing on Ebay, keep in mind that you are competing against collectors all over the country, as well as in Europe, Asia and Australia. There are over 6 billion people in the world, yet it doesn't take long to begin to recognize the same handful of bidders' Ebay names when bidding on DDs and cylinders.
Rocky
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2007 20:17:00 GMT -5
Thanks Rocky!
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Post by gramophoneshane on Feb 3, 2007 22:35:03 GMT -5
Paul- In general, anything that has a record number starting with an 8 is most likely going to be crap. These records are more on the traditional/classical genre side of things. 99% of the ones I have in this range, I never play,though there is a few good ones amongst them. There are some good WW1 songs in the 8s, and a few traditional songs i like. I also like some of the duets, and a very small handful of songs like "Young Tom O'Devon", which my warped sense of humor finds funny. In time,you'll get to know which ones to take a chance on. Many artists were "type cast" for their recordings, like many actors of today. Others were versitile, and recorded just about anything around, and they sold well. Billy Murray is one such artist. I put him in the same cataguory as I put Maddonna or Kylie Minogue- All they'd have to do is fart into the microphone, and they'd sell a million copies ;D
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Post by maroongem on Feb 4, 2007 0:07:53 GMT -5
Really?
Records starting with 8 are crap? How about 82351-82360? These were electrically recorded. (9 records) And 80885-80907 were also electrically recorded.(22 records) Sure beats 52089-52651 for rarity. These electrics were 562 records.............. You be the judge.
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2007 4:47:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the information, guys. This really gives me something to think about, when looking for records. Although, I'm still just going to buy them when I find them. Unless of course I happen to, buy any off ebay.
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Post by gramophoneshane on Feb 4, 2007 6:16:44 GMT -5
Bill, I did say "in general" and "most likely crap"! There are exceptions.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2007 7:09:59 GMT -5
Seems to me, that everyone has different tastes in muisc, and that some discs will sound better then others. For example the electrically recorded discs are the best, then the paper lable ones would be next, then the ones after WW I and prior to WW I, and the ones during WW I would be the least sounding ones.
So in conclusion, the discs in the 50000-80000 are genneraly the ones with the best sound quality? Anything earlier, would be of lower quality?
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Post by maroongem on Feb 4, 2007 11:11:51 GMT -5
Paul.
50001,80001,82001, & 83001 (all starting in 1913)were the start of the general issue DDS. The latter 50000 series will have the paper labels and better surfaces. Any earlier issues that weren't cut out from the catalog and continued to be pressed after the start of paper labels will sound better than their earlier counterparts. The same will go for the other series I mentioned. There was only one 84000 series released in 1917 and is an opera release "Rigoletto" with the flip side being an explanatory talk by Harry Humphrey about the opera itself and a brief bio on the singers featured. There are other series as well such as Finnish, Yiddish, etc. They will have different numbers than the ones aforementioned.
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2007 18:09:11 GMT -5
Thanks Bill, I'll keep this in mind when I go looking for DD's.
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