|
|
Post by theancestor on Apr 20, 2015 22:06:41 GMT -5
So, I have had my great grandmas phonograph since I was a kid. The top part of the case has the veneer coming off, I don't know if I want to mess with that. I will probably take it to a professional. Overall it is in good shape inside. Before the belt broke I use to play the cylinders. The other night I took the metal off oiled the broken hinges put matchsticks in the holes and re-screwed them in and re-glued the top wood that was badly loose.
I need help identifying the year it was built and any other information like what kind of horn it had.
Serial: 330830
no prefixes.
All I got from google is this is a Model C or possibly D?
From what I have gathered from this board already. Clean the wood with Kotton Klenser Protective Wood Feeder, clean the feed screw with Bon Ami and oil the insides with Wahl Blade Oil. There is also slight rust on the inside, should I worry about that or is there a cleaner/protector I can use, Bon Ami?
|
|
|
|
Post by lucius1958 on Apr 20, 2015 22:44:49 GMT -5
George P. should be able to tell you when it left the factory. Some photos would be nice, as well.
BillS
|
|
|
|
Post by nefaurora on Apr 20, 2015 23:54:49 GMT -5
We'll need more to go on than that. There's more info on that data plate that you are leaving out. A Serial number with no Model type is pretty useless... Though I'd have to guess it's probably a Edison Standard Model if I had to guess, but I'd rather not. Please post a pic of phonograph and a picture of the data plate, and we can tell you more about it. You can use photobucket....It's free.  ) Tony K. Edison Collector/Restorer |
|
|
|
Post by martinola on Apr 21, 2015 0:09:58 GMT -5
Hi theancestor! Lack of model type info would indicate an "A" or "B". Going by serial number, you probably have a late model B. As the others have said, photos would be a big help with a better ID. I can possibly help you with your lid problems. Tell us more!  Martin |
|
|
|
Post by phonogfp on Apr 21, 2015 7:31:52 GMT -5
Ditto on the necessity for a photo(s). Without knowing the model (which a photo will reveal), there's no way to accurately date it.
George P.
|
|
|
|
Post by theancestor on Apr 21, 2015 12:10:39 GMT -5
 Sorry about that, this is the only one I have on me at this moment. I can get more if needed. The lid is in really bad shape. I can take photos of it later as well. I have no experience in restoring wood (I had no problems re-wood gluing) and am slightly worried about using Kotton Klenser especially around the decals. |
|
|
|
Post by phonogfp on Apr 21, 2015 14:33:14 GMT -5
Unfortunately, my sales data goes only to May 1908, and this number is higher than was reached by then. Obviously, this is an Edison Home Phonograph.
I wouldn't use Kotten Klenser on the decals, but would suggest GoJo or Goop (the no pumice variety for either one). These are readily available in stores such as Wal-Mart, cost less than half the price of KK, don't smell nearly as bad as KK, and are gentler.
I wouldn't use Bon Ami on that feedscrew either. Some penetrating oil overnight and rubbing with an old cloth or towel would be better. If you have a steady hand, holding the corner of a razor blade LIGHTLY in the groove as its running will remove lots of gunk. Do this after the oil soak.
Good luck!
George P.
|
|
|
|
Post by theancestor on Apr 21, 2015 14:59:53 GMT -5
George, thank you very much for your helpful advice. I can't wait to get it going again. These forums have been very very helpful. I will be coming back here many times in the coming months until it is running again. I hope to pass this on to my daughter and eventually others.
|
|
|
|
Post by nefaurora on Apr 26, 2015 14:45:57 GMT -5
If you show us more pics of the machine, We should be able to tell what Edison Home Model it is. Post more pics to the machine. Thanks, Tony K. It is interesting! ) Thanks! |
|
|
|
Post by lucius1958 on Apr 27, 2015 1:16:34 GMT -5
If it has factory 2/4 minute gearing (evidenced by a decal on the upper casting, plus the pull-out section on the pulley), it would be a model D or later.
The 2 minute only model C was available for only a few months in 1908.
BillS
|
|
|
|
Post by billcahill on May 2, 2015 18:51:09 GMT -5
You must use a good machine oil on feedsrew, bearings, and, motor bearing, plus, a couple of drops of oil on carriage rod.
Do not use bonami. Need more pictures.
Bill
|
|
|
|
Post by lucius1958 on May 2, 2015 21:27:09 GMT -5
As for the horn: does this Home have an angled or horizontal reproducer carriage? And is there any evidence of screw holes on the front or rear of the case?
If it's an angled carriage, it would most likely have come with a straight, black 'morning glory' horn (Edison marketed several sizes of these for the Home, Standard, etc.), or even an after-market horn, if you wanted something more colorful. If there are no screw holes on the front of the case, it might have used a simple crane that was held by the edge of the case under the lid, and a section that went under the bottom of the case (Reproductions of these are available from various sources).
The larger, horizontal carriage for the Model O, N, or Diamond B reproducer, was often used with the 'Cygnet' horns, which used a crane mounted on a back bracket; if it had this, you should see four screw holes on the back of the case.
BillS
|
|
)
