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Post by lenoirstreetguy on Sept 14, 2008 19:26:49 GMT -5
This version is one of the re-recordings with an electrically recorded orchestral accompaniment..which I understand was the only thing the " curtains" label was used on, was it not? Unfortunately I don't know which acoustic version they used for the dub! J.R.T.
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Post by ultona on Sept 23, 2008 15:27:55 GMT -5
Here's an odd one, a vertically cut Sonora I dug out for the Vic board...how many of these have you seen? Sean
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Post by neophone on Sept 23, 2008 16:17:58 GMT -5
Sean,
WOW organized drug dealing way back then?!
Couldn't help myself sorry. That's a great one, I've never seen that label before. What year does that date to Sean? Mid teens?
Regards, J.
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Post by neophone on Sept 30, 2008 3:47:13 GMT -5
Gents, Here's a few more slightly rare labels ;D An early Zon-O-Phone №. 10 A very fancy early Winner from England An early Spanish Columbia... and it's reverse And lastly for now a burgundy colored Radiex. This and one other were a gift from a collector friend this past Sunday. I had only ever seen two other Radiex labels with this design before and one was light blue like the early electric Grey Gulls I have, it was a 4000 series. the other was bright orange and it was a 2000 series like this one but a later issue. I am wondering if at one point Theodore Shaw or his minions planned on different colors for each series on each label? Regards, J.
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Post by ultona on Sept 30, 2008 10:39:12 GMT -5
OK - it's that Radiex label! I don't know why, John, but for some reason I couldn't picture it in my head. I have a couple of these on red wax, not sure I have any of them on black wax. I know one even has the original sleeve. I know the later electric Radiex issues (or at least some of them) had a more deluxe looking blue gold and white label.
I'm behind (way behind) on posting some photos here...I'll get to it one of these months!
Sean
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Post by neophone on Oct 2, 2008 3:18:57 GMT -5
Folks, Here's a couple more: Regards, J.
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Post by ultona on Oct 2, 2008 11:48:03 GMT -5
Found another weird Radiex label... Sean
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Post by neophone on Oct 2, 2008 13:56:42 GMT -5
Sean, That's a neat one, hadn't seen that one before. Here's another one from a Wikipedia page: Someone could write an entire book just on the various labels of the Grey Gull family I think! Sean, is that one from your collection or did you find the image on-line? I'd love to hear that number, I'll bet it's a good one. Regards, J.
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Post by rocky on Oct 2, 2008 17:51:18 GMT -5
John, I admire the Winner label record of "When you wore a tulip...." Will this one find its way to Youtube? Rocky
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Post by henry on Oct 2, 2008 18:29:26 GMT -5
John, I have a 10" Zon-O-Phone record (no. 401) with label identical to yours, except for the title and performers: High School Cadets March (Sousa), Seventh Regiment Band. On the (blank) reverse there's a paper license label, 2-11/16" x 2-1/8", specifying retail prices, Universal Talking Machine Mfg. Co., Dec. 1, 1905. I don't exactly remember how I came into possession of this record, but it's earliest technology, for sure.
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Post by matty on Oct 2, 2008 22:18:53 GMT -5
I also have that Zonophone label, but it's a chocolate brown 9" disc. The disc has a dimple about an inch from the spindle hole. Was this a feature of the Universal machine? John, I can't remember now if your Edison Bell label was the second or third style label, but 2910 was released in Dec 1915.
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Post by neophone on Oct 3, 2008 3:07:51 GMT -5
Matty, Mine doesn't have the dimple, but it does have a similar label. Mine says it's a 10 inch record and the price is to be not less than a dollar ea. ten dollars per dozen. the date on the bottom is Oct. 1st, 1903. Henry, I have two more with number in the triple digits with the same label as well so yes they must have stuck with it a while or put out a lot of discs fairly quickly. ;D Rocky, it's there.... sounds horrible but it's there. Now I've got to get to bed-I've got a surprise coming tomorrow or later to day to be more precise. Regards, J. P.S. Henry, I'll have some more goodies for you later today.....
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Post by ultona on Oct 3, 2008 8:27:09 GMT -5
The label John posted of the Zonophone was the label they used right up until they stopped producing single sided discs. I'll post a photo of a double sided Zonophone eventually. I don't think the double faced discs were made for very long, at least not US Zonophone, maybe a couple of years? I don't have ARLIE here to check, but Wiki says they stopped selling Zonophone records in the US in 1910. Actually here's a link to a photo from Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Zonophone.pngSean
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Post by neophone on Oct 3, 2008 12:56:47 GMT -5
I also have that Zonophone label, but it's a chocolate brown 9" disc. The disc has a dimple about an inch from the spindle hole. Was this a feature of the Universal machine? John, I can't remember now if your Edison Bell label was the second or third style label, but 2910 was released in Dec 1915. Matty, I forgot I had scanned the conditions label from the back when I did the rest of the scans. I tell you it's nice to have a working scanner again. ;D With the camera I usually had to take three or four shots to get a decent one under the lamp. The Winner had two or three versions of this label didn't they? Regards, J.
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Post by matty on Oct 3, 2008 19:29:34 GMT -5
Yes, there were several variations of the coloured horse label, and there are 18 different labels all together. Your's is the third basic style. I don't have an example of the original 1912 label, but it was similar to the first one pictured below, and lacked the grand stand in the back ground. It then changed to your style of label, moving the grand stand from left to right & redressing the gent at the finishing line. Then in 1917, the label changed to a monochrome green picture, later changing again to a sepia tone. In Dec 1919 a colour picture was re-introduced with a red ground. Shortly after it's introduction, "it wins" was ommited & replaced with Manufactured at Edison Bell Works London. In June 1922 the first of the gold printed labels appeared, and changed from 2 tone to 3 tone during 1924.
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