Need some education

[barrysteiger]

I am trying to get a handle on a phonograph and cyliders I have inherited. I have ordered Reiss's book suggested by Matt. Matt also suggested that I post photos and someone might help me with preliminary information.
Some cylinders are in boxes that say Edison Emberol on blue labels, some with brown labels and some without boxes. These cyliders are in various shades of blue, some black.
The phono isn't great shape but seems to work. Some cyliders are in good condition, others have some irregularities on the outer edge of the ring.
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[barrysteiger]

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[Matt Brown]

Looks like an Amberola 30 to me. Missing the grille, and in need of some cosmetic surgery.....

Matt

[barrysteiger]

Thank you Matt. I now have Reiss's book and it does look like the picture on page 136, a table-top Amberola. Is there any source that would help me identify the rarity (or lack thereof) of the cylinders? I see a big range on eBay from no bids to soem that are apparently rare and have a lot of bids. There is a book I see on Amazon that lists all the cylinders but I don't think that would help.

[Matt Brown]

List what you have here, and perhaps we can help identify any that might be more valuable than others.
I don't know of a source that identifies values of specific cylinders. Anyone?

Matt

[barrysteiger]

Thanks again Matt. You have been very helpful. Here is a list. I would also appreciate any help in how to describe damage. Many of these have some irregularaties on the edges of the rings on the inside, especially the lower ring. The surfaces look OK. Is there anything to look for that would identify a surface problem?
1 2432 Tramp, Knickerbocker Quartet
2 25342 Somebody Cares, Homer Rodeheaver
3 1601 Home Sweet Home the World Over, Edison Concert Band
4 1854 Always Gallant Polka (xylophone) DAAB
5 2971 On the Beach Medley, Waikiki Hawaiian Orchestra
6 1776 God Be With YouTill We Meet Again, Edison Mixed Quar
7 2030 There’s a Mother Always Waiting You, etc. Oakland and Ch
8 2916 Yaaka Hula Hickey Dula, W Van Brunt
9 1947 Only to See Her Face Again, Oakland and Chorus
10 2610 I’m on My Way to Dublin Bay, Permier Quar
11 3868 Macushla, A. Lindquest
12 3870 Christmas Bells, R. Gayler
13 1795 Dream the Tyrolienne, Venitian Inst Trio (2)
15. 2974 You’re a Dangerous Girl, Helen Clark & J. Phillips
16. 2353 The Old Fahioned Faith, Rodehaver
17. 3102 Good Night, Good Night Beloved Mixed Quartette
18. 2085 We’ll Build a Little Home in the USA,I. Kaufman and Cho
19. 1634 Kiss Me My Honey, Kiss Me, Jones and Murray
20. 4364 Where the Lazy Mississippi Flows, C.Hart & L. James
15. 1884 Rainbow, Ada Jones & Murray
16. 2187 Dream Days, Romain
17. 3171 Whispering Flowers, Reed Orch
18. 4126 Sunny Southern Smiles, Permier Quar
19. 4246 Do You Ever Think of Me, H.Raderman’s Jazz Orch
20. 2937 Wake Up America, Medley-one step, Jaudas Society Orch
21. 3246 All Hail the Power of Jesus’ Name, Metropolitan QT
22. 3955 Let the Rest of the World Go By, Marion Cox&H. Hyndermyer
23. 1550 Casey Jines, Murray & Chorus
24. 3650 Hawaiian Nights, Waikiki Hawaiian Orch
25. 3642 I Aint Got Weary Yet, A. Fields & Cho
26. 3827 Patrol of the Scouts, Conway & Band
27. 3647 Artists and Life Waltz, American Symphony Orch.
28. 3024 My Sweet Sweeting Waltz, Louise & Ferera
29. 4961 You Will Never Miss Your Mother G
30. 3207 Hawaiian Dreams G
31. 2440 Beyond the Smilin and the Weeping G
32. 4145 Saxaphone Fantasy G
33. 3985 Dardanella Foxtrot G
34. 3626 Garden of my Dreams G
35. 3700 Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God Almighty, The Calvary Choir G
36. 2161 The Honest Hold –Up Man and BillyBeans Hill FG
37. 4050 Oh Joe Please Don’t Go, Al Barnard&F. Kamplain
38. 1856 Where the Silver Colorado
39. 3860 The Wooing Hour Serenade
40. 4610 Stumeling Foxtrot, Broadway Dance Orchestra
41. 3159 In the Sweet Long Ago, C Ballard
42. 3633 Don’t Forget the Salvation Army
43. 3633 Just a Baby’ds Prayer at Twilight inside lower ring bad
44. 1638 Belle of NY & 2D Regt.Conn N.G. Marches Band
45. 3974 Theres Not a Song That Trembles (2)
46. 3801 See Old Man Moon Smile, Bernard & Hare
47. 5226 Black Bottom Fox Trot, Stern & His Orchestra
48. 4052 Hawaiian Smiles. Waikiki Hawaiian Orch
49. 3798 Forever Blowing Bubble, Clark&Howard
50. 1543 Red Wing, Potter&Cho
51. 4661 Hot Life Fox trot, E. Stevens Trio
52. 3600 A Good Man is Hard to Find, E. Hare
53. 4200 The Hula Blues,H. Raderman’s Jazz Orchestra
54. 4216 SparkletsConway & Band
55. 1432 Band The 3 D G’s March
56. 4157 Hungarian Rhapsody, Violocello Solo
57. 2396 Blue Jay and the Thrush, Harlan& Belmont
58. 1532 Dixie Medley (Banjo), Van Epps lower inner ring damage
59. 3912 Back Home on the Farm. Goden&Hughes
60. 3914 I Love You Just the Same Sweet Adeline, Premier Quart
61. 4341 Good as Gold Waltz, Della Robia Orch
62. 2219 The Gates Ajar for Me,
63. 1077 Band the Bandolera
64. 3822 When You Hold Me in Your Arms
65. 1617 Sleepy Rose, A.G. Lighty
66. 4216 Sparkletts
67. 3868 Macuslla
68. 4356 Sunnyside Sal
69. 940 Cornet With Band Accomp. Pretty Peggy (Black)

[maroongem]

#5226 was recorded in Aug of 1926 and was released in Oct.'26. This is probably the most collectable one in this grouping, as it is a late BA and many collectors go ga-ga over these, regardless of content. As this is a Fox-Trot, it makes it a bit more interesting. I have it on DD and it's a snappy number! As for it's worth, it would go on Ebay for what ever the fools with deep pockets are willing to pay. I just watched a 'Come Josephine in My Flying Machine" (#1949) go for $106.49!!!! In my mind, absolutely rediculous. But as it was once said......"A fool and his money are soon parted."
The rest can go from a few $$$ and up to perhaps the $10-15 range.
Bill