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Post by edisonphonoworks on Aug 8, 2017 22:40:28 GMT -5
The Electrophones, did contain original work, that is made from tape masters and cut electrically to the wax master, and electroplated to make a master mold, the copies were made in the various plastics, from metal electrotyped molds.
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Post by edisonphonoworks on May 3, 2017 21:13:08 GMT -5
In my experience, I find Phonograph Collectors, are more machine collectors, and very few of them actually appreciate or like any of the popular music, or the history of the people of the time. Remember history repeats itself, if you try to politely put it in the closet. The most offended are "liberals" by these records, as the pre Civil war South was the bedrock of their political party and they want to sweep this under the rug, as they are embarrassed by this, while most of their policies, still enslave. And if you call me a racist or bigot, just remember... My daughter is part African American. So yes I find these skits, and songs, offensive, but historically significant. At the same time the skits and songs are well written and entertaining.
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Post by edisonphonoworks on May 3, 2017 21:03:53 GMT -5
Yes this gear, the 19 toothed pinion is known for splitting. Ron Sitko sells a steel replacement, that has a set screw, I have used these set screw replacements, and never had a problem with them.
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Post by edisonphonoworks on May 1, 2017 0:30:20 GMT -5
I heard this machine demonstrated a few years ago at Union with some very rare pre 1900 records, and it sounded excellent. You see many on these groups are machine collectors,and dealers. Many machine collectors, slant little to the left,politically, so they don't really enjoy the records and their history, as they find it offensive, and are more interested in the mechanics of the machine, and hope that they can find more Jazz,Which is rare, for a reason, it was wonderful and fun music, however was not popular with the masses of the population at the time. You see Hymns, sentimental ballads,comic popular music, marches and minstrel shows, were what the real majority of the public listened to, and Opera,and some light classical thrown in too. It does not seem to play other than standard records, but with the right pre amp and attachments, it is about the best sounding transcription machine I heard, and sounded to me better than the archeophone.
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Post by edisonphonoworks on Apr 30, 2017 18:50:57 GMT -5
This should work for the Blue Amberols as that is near the size most use to play Blue Amberols when digitizing them. I would Not play any wax Amberols however as that would surely ruin them with that amount of weight.
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Post by edisonphonoworks on Apr 28, 2017 18:09:53 GMT -5
The machine with the white cylinder is one of the actual phonographs that recorded Edison commercial masters. As you can see it has a flywheel. The Edison company had several mastering phonographs, also masters are recorded at 97 1/3 tpi for two minute and 194.66666 for four minute, this is for the shrinkage rates of the master, mother, working mold, and material shrinkage. The feed screw was mounted on the back of the upper casting, and has a 16 tooth gear in the back, chain driven from an 8 toothed gear for four minute or 16 toothed gear for two minute located on the mandrel shaft, which does not have a feed screw on (the original machine located on the bottom) . It is an Edison Triumph model A base, and 3 spring motor. The top works originally were modified Class M top works, the center keeper bearing removed, and the tab by the pulley that keep it in place removed, so that the mandrel could be removed with the master to shave the master on the mandrel the master is to be recorded on. The recording head is a trailing kind of recorder, not a carrier eye kind as found on a phonograph for public use, the studio recorder,it was mounted on an adjustable trunnion, similar to a Graphophone . Also for playback the Amberola 1-B, and 1-A, Amberola IV, Amberola V, Opera all have flywheels (two of them, on the opera and large Amberola.) The other machine is my recorder, and uses an original 1910 era Edison studio recording head. I also have the original cylinder master recording feedscrew of 97 1/3 tpi. However because of collector ignorance and all played hot potato with it "I don't know what this odd ball thing is for, you have it, no you have it???!!!) it was damaged, so I have to use it as a guide to make a new one, and to make a few pitch sizes of 97 1/3, 98,99 to compensate differences in shrinkage, and to make new gears of 8 and 16 teeth for the mandrel. I do not yet have a microscope, but am pretty good at setting the advance ball depth by the sound of the cut. The other picture is my studio recorder, this recorded commercial Edison masters, and the round ball by the cutting stylus is the advance ball, and on the advance ball adjustment arm, which is changed with a micrometer adjustment screw located on top of the recorder. The diaphragm is glass and different instruments recorded with different size from .005" to .0085" The arrangement for the cutting stylus works well, however the original one might have (none have them left) a reed of glass, and a dome in the center with rivet, and a brass or aluminum cone to a stylus holder. I have not got that far yet, this arrangement works great, records sibilants and shimmer, and deep bass. The dampening is burnt rubber layered on a regular rubber gasket. Attachments:
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Post by edisonphonoworks on Aug 19, 2013 16:07:25 GMT -5
These are New blanks,that I make, do they fit your needs? I don't like to see original brown wax cylinders being shaved, some people don't know what is worth saving, and historic recordings get erased, maybe because they have a locked groove, They are a "poor" home recordings (this is a travasty as they are sonic links to the life in the day of the late 19th, early century). home life. or a few mold specs, There maybe 3 million brown wax Edison and Columbia records produced.
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Post by edisonphonoworks on Feb 13, 2013 12:53:22 GMT -5
Nick Pavone has produced a wonderful film interviewing hobbyist and collectors, and historians about the early days of acoustic recording. Here is the trailer for the film. www.phonographconversations.com/ Enjoy!!!
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Post by edisonphonoworks on Feb 7, 2013 13:33:18 GMT -5
I got one for you, I saw a few Edison Gold Moulded records that had spiral cores, like brown wax, I have only seen two of these in looking through bins and bins of Gold Moulded cylinders. They were title end, round ended kind, not the flat ends. Yes, I will back up the 1906 period for smooth bore cylinders. I do not understand this as Edison had patented the idea of spiral and annular projections on the interior of the cylinders in patent, 414,761 in 1889. So I am sure that once that was cleared up he went back to work. I use this information to make my own blanks.
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Post by edisonphonoworks on Jan 31, 2013 14:01:45 GMT -5
Yes it is a model B. He has a model A and B Triumph. The company has 2 As and a B.
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Post by edisonphonoworks on Apr 15, 2011 14:12:33 GMT -5
Theis is the Vulcan And Wizard info, Duncan Miller, is the inventor of the modern cylinder molding technology, and owner of the Vulcan titles, he also makes his master wax. Peter Dilg is an expert acoustic recordist, and sends his masters to Duncan to make the molds and hard copy for the Wizard titles, Pete also does electrical recording as well, but really more enjoyes working with the acoustic method. I will admit, I get much better results dubbing acoustically, it is easier, and you have to EQ things less, the diaphragm does most of that for you, I made direct recorded brown wax records electrically with incredible fidelity, when played back with an Edisonia or Archeophone, but were too much for a model C or O. It would be hard to tell my acoustic dubbings, they sound very electric, I wish I could work with cylinders full time, but a person needs to make a living.
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Post by edisonphonoworks on Apr 13, 2011 23:30:40 GMT -5
I would say early 20s, My business partner used to have one. Black with wooden cabinet,a nd black enamal??
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Post by edisonphonoworks on Apr 13, 2011 14:00:53 GMT -5
I agree Stratina is what they used in the old days, and works.
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Post by edisonphonoworks on Apr 12, 2011 23:24:13 GMT -5
Sounds like the little 19 tooth pinion gear made of brass, they must shrink over the years and crack. Antique phonograph supply Co ,. Wyatt's Musical Americana,. And Ron. Sitko cary them, in steel with a setscrew. I have soldered them On the. Shaft before, when. Itwas. A cean break, however, if the. Solder des not evenly coat the shaft. And gear, it can detach and crumple!
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Post by edisonphonoworks on Apr 11, 2011 2:24:09 GMT -5
Im making a batch of four minute blanks, it seems when these are new, they will shave on a regular Edison shaver, the tall one is a new four minute blank made by myself while the short one is an original Edison one from the teens. The funny thing is the four minute blanks seem to be easier to mold than two minite ones, much to my surprise, I probably have enough four minute blank wax to make a run of two dozen. Attachments:
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