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Post by bobacker on Oct 12, 2009 19:27:54 GMT -5
Hi, I just brought this Edison phonograph part off of eBay. In picture didn’t see any damage to the Elbow that hold the horn and the reproducer disc which is brass. Which is brass I think. Since it is bent badly, at that the 90 degree angle, can I bend back to where should be so can play on disc record? By using low heat from a propane heather gun, with out causing damage to metal part of horn that is connect to bass part? To bend back to where should be at? see picture of this and let me know, what would be best interest, what to do here? Thank Bob Attachments:
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Post by martinola on Oct 13, 2009 10:48:42 GMT -5
Hi Bob.
Welcome to the board! Not to cause trouble here, but are you sure that the damage didn't happen in transit? (It wouldn't be the first time that UPS, USPS or Fed-Ex crunched a package.) In any case, you'll either need to replace the whole thing (the easiest) or try to bend it back. If it were me, I'd probably have a try at bending it back. (It's useless as-is.) Be careful with the heat as the neck is soldered on to the horn. Also - that finish is lacquered gold plate (over brass?). The big trick will be holding the horn without denting it up. Maybe the best approach would be to install it in the machine, and lever up the arm with a length of galvanized pipe. The main thing is to go easy in small increments. Good luck and let us know how you progress!
Regards,
Martin
(martinola, martin1)
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Post by bobacker on Oct 13, 2009 15:42:44 GMT -5
He call himself the onemansjunkizanotherstreasure, who I brought from. In picture from what could see it didn't appear to look bent at all. got to this website see for yourself: cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120471980130&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:ITYou could be right on this perhaps was damage in UPS. But crunched appear to be done inside box no evident of showing it on out side of box. This I can't rule out. But again the person who sent this to me, didn't warp good, or protect it well in shipping where look like of weight from the base of this Edison, could had put too much strain on horn, because he didn't use thick sty foam to protect it with, during the shipment process. But can make UPS accountable for this? wasn’t insure. Like you said it appear to look like that finish is lacquered gold plate, not true brass sold, because some spot look rusty. As I can see it already is denting where it curve at , could been done from the top of plate rubbing against horn and box weight too. Another question I have here, this horn is a 15 “, much larger then 13” use in smaller Edison . I was reading that the 15” were use in Chippendale Edison, where any other model that had 15” horn? I’m new at this. Thank Bob P.S. I have more picture of it to show better view of where dent is at. would like send to picture to you? need email. Thank |
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Post by maroongem on Oct 13, 2009 18:27:04 GMT -5
Hi Bob,
By looking at the pix provided by the seller, the damage doesn't appear to be present. Did you pay for insurance?
If you are going to attempt to straighten out the bend, i would suggest you do it with the horn free from the lifting mechanism (and not in a machine) as you might bend the assembly and cause further problems, especially with the horn tracking. Heat isn't really necessary but I would recommend that you bend it back slowly. You will still have creases at the affected area but this shouldn't impair the sound.
Bill
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Post by martinola on Oct 14, 2009 0:25:42 GMT -5
Hi Bob.
As regarding straightening the horn neck, I'd go by what Bill says. He's worked on a lot more of these than I have. Good luck with your situation. I find that many folks who sell heavy old stuff on ebay really don't have a clue when it comes to proper packaging. I don't think insurance will pay for shipping costs (I may be wrong), so your best option may be to try and fix it. (I feel your pain!) Keep us in the loop!
Regards,
Martin
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Post by bobacker on Oct 15, 2009 21:34:20 GMT -5
Thank again guy for all advice here. I couldn't have done it with out you guys. and Special thank for bill who been around in this type of business. Now this old Recorder player, play like an old sew machine. Only thing don't have no threads ! LOL
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Post by PhenolResin on Apr 29, 2010 11:40:49 GMT -5
Glad to learn you fixed it, bobacker - Great Job!! As for your question about 15" horn size - Yes, the 15" horn was used on any model that was designated as an "Official Laboratoy Model". The "Chippendale" and the "William and Mary" machines are the only ones that come to mind at the moment, and these would be in both the upright and console models. There might be 1 or 2 other Lab Models less popular with these larger horns. Enjoy your machine!!
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