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Post by maroongem on Mar 18, 2007 10:40:06 GMT -5
If you can supply the title, I can tell you if it was listed on the UK 23000 series, unless of course Rocky beats me to it. Bill I don't think it will be Bill. I couldn't tell you the title anyway ;D Anyone read chinese?? One of my GFs co-workers is Chinese and she will see if this girl can translate the lid. BTW, what is on the title end of the record? I've never seen one of these! Bill
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Post by gramophoneshane on Mar 18, 2007 16:26:08 GMT -5
Here's a pic. I'm hoping it's clear enough to read. It just says "chinese" and is from take 1, master mould 1. It also has the letter "Z-" before PAT'D. I put it on OTVMMB awhile back, & no-one there had seen one either. It's probably the only rare cylinder I own, & I'd love to keep it, but I think I should get rid of it before I find it in pieces oneday.
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Post by rocky on Mar 18, 2007 17:28:42 GMT -5
Interesting cylinder, Shane! Maybe the Edison people were simply not set up to put Chinese characters on the title end of the cylinder so they settled for a very generic "Chinese." Speaking of Amberols that weren't rereleased in Blue Amberol format, here's a stunning record I discovered today! Amberol 780 "Down in sunshine valley" by Manuel Romain and chorus cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/mp3s/2000/2057/cusb-cyl2057d.mp3Notice that this song is very similar to the 1904 hit "Blue Bell." Rocky
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Post by gramophoneshane on Mar 18, 2007 19:42:13 GMT -5
Yes Rocky, I think you are probably right. I think that's why the lid title and number have been hand written, then printed.
Cool song BTW. I quite like Manuel Romain. My favorite song by him is BA 1894: Under southern skies.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2007 20:06:31 GMT -5
So, If I find more of these cylinders, in good condtion, are they worth buying?
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Post by rocky on Mar 18, 2007 20:07:28 GMT -5
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Post by gramophoneshane on Mar 19, 2007 8:51:16 GMT -5
That's ok Rocky, and thanks for the link. I never thought about looking for that one at U of C. I'm glad you liked it. It's probably not to everyone's taste, but I think it's great. I like stuff that's a little different. It's certainly a very "visual" song, if you know what I mean. I can imagine it being done as a stage production in the follies! BTW: I notice the MP3 of this sounds a little wonky at the start. I always think my machine needs to be wound up when I play this cylinder, but I guess it's just the way it was recorded.
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Post by steve on Mar 20, 2007 18:59:09 GMT -5
The wax amberol wax 2 minutes sound good when in excellent shape, when they get worn they have high surface noise. Edison made these in batches. My earliest number is 10120, the second is 10303 and some of the latest ones I have like 10570 are made of regular wax. The latest 2 minutes are very well recorded, like the 2 minute blue amberols. My Mexican blue amberol sounds very nice.
The wax amberol, I read they actually lost sound after one play, a reason the opera did not do well. I believe the wax amberols are very sensitive to storage, those that were stored in a stable environment remain nice, those exposed to freeze and heat cycles over the years become so sensitive I have seen some that have cracked in the box.
My Bambazoo is on DD and was made into the white label era.
You can put an H stylus in a model C and play four minute records. The first model H was made from a C weight and had holes in the weight like the C, the second H still had the holes but came with the swivel shoulder stylus holder.
Steve
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Post by maroongem on Mar 21, 2007 11:01:39 GMT -5
Here's a pic. I'm hoping it's clear enough to read. It just says "chinese" and is from take 1, master mould 1. It also has the letter "Z-" before PAT'D. I put it on OTVMMB awhile back, & no-one there had seen one either. It's probably the only rare cylinder I own, & I'd love to keep it, but I think I should get rid of it before I find it in pieces oneday. Hi Shane, This is what I have found out so far, this is an email from my GF regarding the cylinder: "Sandie says the ones going across have something to do with a woman's school or academy. The ones underneath she thinks are names. If you translate literally they mean young man and flowers which she says are what a lot of names mean. She also said that in China they have like a woman's opera academy which could be what the title means she couldn't read one of the figures. Can you get a sound copy of the song so she can hear it. She was fascinated by this."I wonder if you can get a clearer pic of the lid that can be blown up w/o losing much resolution. Also. if you could post a recording, I will send that to her and perhaps she can tell us more. Bill
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Post by gramophoneshane on Mar 21, 2007 17:27:04 GMT -5
Bill' Here's a bigger pic of the lid. I'll record it later and post it. I've put it on ebay, and was going to record it anyway. (item 260099238518)
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Post by maroongem on Mar 22, 2007 11:28:41 GMT -5
Great!
Thanks Shane.
Bill
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