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Post by neophone on Jan 17, 2008 18:18:45 GMT -5
Folks, My family bought me this little fella this week: It came with about 50 DDs all but one in great condition. Mostly etched labels, a few paper labels. The best being Vincent Lopez's recording of Nola. After about sixty years in a damp cellar she runs like a top! Now if only I can make look as good as she sounds. This week-end is GoJo time. I'll try to post a few photos as I go. I'm no Covah so it'll take longer than a couple of days to get the job done....a lot longer! It seems complete but for the lock escutcheon for the lid lock and the key itself. Of course the castors are shot. Bill, I found the metal runner for the rod on the door inside the horn compartment, so you don't need to take a photo. It's all clear to me now, "Light dawns on Marblehead". ;D Thanks. I've seen a few C-19s in person before, but dash it all, this thing seems so big. It looks like Billy Barty's TARDIS! ;D (I'd have to scrunch down a little to get inside it myself. Regards, J.
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Post by lukewarmwater on Jan 17, 2008 19:24:53 GMT -5
Hooray! Another survivor rescued! I love Diamond Disc machines . . . congratulations! Be sure to look behind the record dividers for anything that may have slid back in there. I once found a bunch of 7" Consolidated, Eldridge Johnson, and Zonophone discs inside one. I'll keep my eyes peeled for that escutcheon for you. Luke W.
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Post by rocky on Jan 17, 2008 20:04:59 GMT -5
John, congratulations on your new Edison machine! I'm sure you're enjoying the sound that comes with a 250 horn.
Rocky
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Post by neophone on Jan 17, 2008 22:37:14 GMT -5
Luke,
I pulled, I think, fourteen Diamond Discs out of the back AFTER we moved it, but BEFORE we brought it upstairs (Thank Goodness! Every little bit helps-That's one heavy Son-Of-A-Gun!) We did pretty good getting it around the winders on the stairs, an upright is easier than a console. The owner did have a hand-written list index of some of the discs in it. My left hand is still bruised from wedging it in between the dividers. Thanks Luke.
Rocky,
Yes Sirree! There is a noticeable difference between the horn in the C-19 and the one in the H-19 & S-19. I don't know if it's actually louder, but it does seem a bit fuller.
Regards, J.
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Post by maroongem on Jan 18, 2008 0:03:56 GMT -5
John,
That looks even better than I thought it would when we spoke the other day!!! Go-Jo and some 0000 steel wool should make a big improvement on the beastie.
Welcome to the world of no. 250 horns!!!!!!!!
Bill
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Post by neophone on Jan 18, 2008 0:34:36 GMT -5
Bill,
It withstood the damp very well, but it was standing in water for a time. The bottom two inches are rough. I'm going to have a hard time with that. Gluing the veneer doesn't worry me much, but blending the finish-That's the rub! But even if I never get it perfect I'm very happy with the machine!
Regards, J.
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Post by Matt Brown on Jan 18, 2008 23:52:35 GMT -5
John,
Congrats on the new toy - looks nice - I'm sure it'll clean up well.
Best,
Matt
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Post by lukewarmwater on Jan 19, 2008 0:10:45 GMT -5
Bill, It withstood the damp very well, but it was standing in water for a time. The bottom two inches are rough. I'm going to have a hard time with that. Gluing the veneer doesn't worry me much, but blending the finish-That's the rub! But even if I never get it perfect I'm very happy with the machine! Regards, J. If you paint the veneer and the substrate evenly with yellow carpenter's glue and let both surfaces dry without touching (prop apart with toothpicks), you can use a hot iron to iron the veneer back down (iron through a sheet of aluminum foil). This only works with aliphatic resin (yellow) glue as it is thermosetting (melts). You can use hide glue as well, but then have to deal with either clamping or the technique of veneer hammering. Yellow glue works great for this type of repair. Luke W.
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Post by ultona on Jan 19, 2008 13:40:12 GMT -5
Yay, John!!
You already know how happy I am for you! ;D You really are going to love this machine. I still think it'll clean up as nicely as mine did, too...I know, I know, I still have to post those pictures!
Sean
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Post by Matt Brown on Jan 19, 2008 14:35:32 GMT -5
I'm not usually one to "add my two cents", but I thought perhaps I should share a valuable lesson I learned early on when restoring/refinishing any type of antique piece: before re-glueing anything, SCRAPE OFF/REMOVE THE OLD GLUE FIRST. Very important!
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Post by neophone on Jan 19, 2008 20:37:09 GMT -5
Matt,
That's a big YES-SIRREE! I don't know about reheating old hide glue which I've read about and Luke alludes to, but if using new glue-just like painting you've got to get rid of the old stuff loose first.
I may actually have some more photos tonight....
Regards, J.
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Post by lukewarmwater on Jan 19, 2008 22:53:41 GMT -5
You aren't reheating old hide glue -- that won't work . . . you'd be heating the dried yellow glue. I suppose I should have mentioned scraping the old glue off, but I figured you'd know to do that. Luke W.
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Post by neophone on Jan 20, 2008 0:24:04 GMT -5
Luke,
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I thought that's what you said. I had also been thinking about a bit I read in Reiss' book regarding repairing cylinder machine lids. The method you outline brought that to mind.
Regards, J.
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Post by neophone on Jan 22, 2008 18:46:07 GMT -5
Folk, Ding Dang Ding Coal-fired Drat! My arms are tired! ;D But I'm making progress. I hope to have a few photos before the week's out. I need a better light for the pictures. Regards, J. Part II Well I got a few photos in spit of the fact I'm missing a nice bright halogen flood light I bought two years ago and never used! 'Coal-fired Drat is right! The top of the lid looked like dried black leather, even after a few passes with GoJo. I went over it with Howard's Restore-A-Finish. It came out rather uneven. I'm hoping I can go over it again and balance it out, otherwise it's time for the turpentine. I've got a long way to go yet, but I've made a good start I think. Regards, J.
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Post by maroongem on Jan 22, 2008 21:53:46 GMT -5
John,
A marked difference from the photo earlier this week. Amazing what a little elbow grease can accomplish!
Bill
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