Well, I am now starting to understand, why a lot of you gentlemen and ladies, on this board love the music form the 1900-1920's, and beyond. As I have been going though, my modest, albeit small collection of edison discs, I am learing which ones I like, and which ones, I am not too fond of. I do like the Jazz, foxtrot, dance, instrumentals, Marches and Vaudeville. Opera, is okay but not my favorite, and any Classical recordings are fine, but I have a lot of classical on Compact disc.
I now understand, the affinity, and apperication, everyone on this board, has for music, from the Early 20th Century. As well as Edison Phonographs.
Paul, You will find that the DDs have less surface noise after the Great War(1919) and improved even more when the paper labels made their debut in 1921. Even records that were originally released with the incised labels and not cut out before the advent of paper labels, had a much better sound because of the improvement of the surface material. Edison made his records thicker than the shellac for a purpose. A more planer(level) surface that was less likely to warp. Unfortunately, he had his hand in the selection of what the public should hear, and thus it wasn't until his son Theodore took over the Dept. that more "modern" music was recorded. Many believe that the DDs are superior to the shellac discs due to the care in pressing and the format of recording. If you continue to collect, you will find that certain later recordings sound better with the Dance and New Standard(Edisonic) reproducers, especially the foxtrots of 1926-1929.
Post by gramophoneshane on Dec 23, 2006 3:27:05 GMT -5
Sounds like you've been well and truely "bitten by the bug" Paul! I dont think we could ever go record shopping together though. It wont be long before your friends stop coming round incase your playing"that old music",and people will be staring at you at the traffic lights because they can hear the hits of 1915 coming from your car. ;D
Well, I would like to collect more discs, Bill. For some reason, it's really cool to find them, and listen to them. The reaosn I like the Edison Discs, and phonographs, is because, it's different, and less common to find DD's then it is to find 78's and even 33's. Although 33's are not really that exciteing, because, I can still find them, also they were still in use, when I was a kid, plus I can find most 33's on compact disc.
I noticed, that about my DD's Bill. The Black Etched one's have more surface noise, then the latter paper one's. I prefer the latter paper lable DD's to the Etched ones.
That's okay gramophoneshane, or can I call you shane for short? My family will apperciate it more, then my friends. My father's parents had a Victrola when he was a child, so he can appericate the music I have. Plus he is amazed by the clarity, of Edison's recordings. Besides, my father and I both appericate stuff like this. He thought it was cool, that I found the edison, and that I wanted it. This is something we can both enjoy together. Beisdes my father and I do a lot together.
Post by gramophoneshane on Dec 23, 2006 7:01:07 GMT -5
Yeh Paul-Shanes fine. I really only put the "gramophone" in front of my name when I joined OTVMMB because there was already a shane registered. When you find DDs,still look at the etched label ones too. Theres not much "jazz" music on them, but still alot of good stuff on them. Most of the vaudville stuff and artists like Billy Murray, Aileen Stanley, and other comic song artists are mainly on the etched labels. They dont all sound to bad for surface noise either. Its a bit hard to tell which ones are noisy just by looking at them unfortunately. I've got about 200 DDs, and theres only about half a dozen or so, that are really bad. I do agree though, that the paper labels do sound better. I guess by the time paper labels came out in 1921, Edison learned what the best mix of ingredients was, and with the war over, wasn't restricted to using inferior products.
Steven Medved, was kind enough to send me some copies, of some of his CD's, of recordings, of Edison Discs. I know have an idea what of type of discs too looke for. Plus I can also figure out which music, I like, and which I don't. So thank you Steve, for doing this, and introduceing me to music, for the accoustic Era.
Post by gramophoneshane on Jan 13, 2007 22:12:36 GMT -5
Sounds like you guys are as bad as me. It's interesting to see the different reactions you get from people sometimes. I've had them all I think, ranging from shock or dirty looks, to people bopping to the music. Of course it was worse 20 yrs ago when I first got my licence. "The grizzly bear" seems to go down well with most people.
Shane, when people react with shock to old records, it might be because the sound is totally foreign to their ears and may not indicate disapproval. It's incredible how this entire world of music is so totally hidden away from those who do not seek it out!
I am starting to apperciate a lot of the music from this time period. It seems to me, that a lot of this music has been forgotten about, by most people. Except for us serious collectors. Yes, I seem to be, becoming some what of a serious collector. Espseically, when it comes to scrutinizing DD's, and now with my burgeoning collection of Edison Cylinders.