Post by cherieinva on Oct 26, 2020 11:04:27 GMT -5
Hello, I’m new to the page and hoping to find some advice/help with my c200 Edison. The handle used to move the swing arm with the needle head to the left and right works but does not work to lift and lower the needle onto the record. The handle itself will move up and down, but not the needle head. Any ideas of this is an easy fix? Or advice on who can help service it? Thank you in advance!!
Post by lucius1958 on Oct 26, 2020 21:52:02 GMT -5
OK: This post should more properly be in the "Disc Phonograph" section; but I will address it here.
Is the reproducer ("needle head") stuck in the up or down position? Raising and lowering the lever should allow the cam underneath to lower or lift the entire horn pivot shaft, and the horn with it.
By your mention of the lever moving freely side to side, and that you do not mention it grinding on anything, I would suspect that the shaft is stuck in the "up" position. In this case, it may be that the bottom end of the shaft has somehow jumped out of its hole, and is preventing it from being lowered.
What we really need to diagnose the problem are some photos, both of the lift lever and the bottom of the shaft.
Last Edit: Oct 26, 2020 21:58:03 GMT -5 by lucius1958
Post by cherieinva on Oct 27, 2020 11:44:03 GMT -5
Thank you for your reply. It is stuck in the upper position and there is no grinding noise when the knob is used to swing the needle head left to right or when attempting to lower the needle head. Photos are in next thread.
Last Edit: Oct 27, 2020 12:06:02 GMT -5 by cherieinva
I was able to lower the needle at one point in time. I took the grill off and it looks like the shaft bar is not in its correct position. I will attach photos so you can see, I apologize for them being sideways. The first photo is the bottom of the shaft. The last photo is the top end where it meets the knob.
Last Edit: Oct 28, 2020 9:35:19 GMT -5 by cherieinva
Post by lucius1958 on Oct 28, 2020 22:14:57 GMT -5
Ok, there's your problem. Move the shaft so that it fits in the hole, and that should solve it.
Make sure, however, when the reproducer is on a record, that the little pin in front is resting about halfway between the bottom of the loop and the underside of the reproducer body. If not, you may have to adjust the height of the horn, by loosening the nuts that hold it to the shaft, readjusting the horn, then tightening them again.
Hope you can enjoy your phonograph again!
Last Edit: Oct 28, 2020 22:16:01 GMT -5 by lucius1958
Post by lucius1958 on Oct 29, 2020 20:20:15 GMT -5
I'm not a great judge of value, unfortunately. If you go to the Talking Machine Forum, however, you may find someone with more experience there.
With the pandemic and its economic insecurity, market values are down for many phonographs; but if you search sites like Ebay, you may find similar machines that have sold recently, and check the final prices paid. That might give you a rough estimate. Good luck!