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Post by camillefg on Jan 23, 2021 15:22:54 GMT -5
Hello !
I found a C450 console a couple months ago for so cheap I couldn’t pass on it.’s a beautiful piece of art and it makes me emotional just thinking about every stranger that ever got to enjoy listening to it through the many years. It is in very good condition but needs a diaphragm replacement. I had in mind to try to change it myself ? Any pointers ?
And if anyone has any information about the model (year of make etc) I am definitely interested to know it. The series number is 301.
Thank you
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Post by lucius1958 on Jan 23, 2021 21:36:56 GMT -5
You can replace the diaphragm yourself if you wish; but removing the pivot screw at the back may be a little tricky, and requires a rather specialized screwdriver. Also, removing and replacing the stylus bar pin can be a bit of a chore. Wyatt Markus does a superb job of rebuilding reproducers, and his rates are quite reasonable.
The C-450, iirc, is the one with the painted urns on the grille, right? I don't have access to my reference book right now; but I think it was introduced around 1917. From what I have read, it was not a very big seller; so I do not know how long it remained in the catalogue.
- BillS
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Post by camillefg on Jan 24, 2021 20:37:17 GMT -5
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the input. Do you know where Wyatt Marcus is located ? Could I take off the arm and send it to someone to repair it you think ? I found a few places that do repair but so far it is very far from where I am located.
It is indeed the model with the urns. I’ve looked around the forum and it is the date I found too. I was wondering thought because the last patent date on the plaque is 1913, and from what I understood there was another patent in 1916. I havent been able to gather lots of info on the model, except that it was not a popular one. I think it is beautiful so I am enjoying it no matter what.
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Post by lucius1958 on Jan 24, 2021 22:19:21 GMT -5
You can find Wyatt on the Talking Machine Forum, under the username "MicaMonster".
If you can find a copy of George Frow's "Edison Disc Phonographs", he has the info on the C-450.
BillS
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Post by alang on Jan 28, 2021 14:56:35 GMT -5
Based on Frow's book the C-450 was introduced to market in August 1918. In December 1918 a "vertical index" was added to the record compartment to meet discontinuance of the edge numbers on DD records. It wasn't a big seller, but stayed in the catalog until 1927. Priced initially at $450, raised to $500 in December 1919 and reduced to $375 in March 1922. Serial number 301 sounds pretty early, nevertheless. Sales numbers are not available, but Frow states that the price reduction in 1922 stimulated sales and that later that year a stock of 998 machines was reported, which was about a 20 months supply at the lower price.
Hope that helps
Andreas
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