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Post by neophone on Nov 15, 2006 7:26:57 GMT -5
Gents & Ladies,
Anyone here every heard of a Vertical Columbia Disc Record? (Or machine for that matter) Now their cylinders were vertically recorded correct? But never any discs?
There's a fellow on Phonphan who's telling someone that Columbia records were vertical before 1910. That's news to me, I have a few they sound lateral to me! I did find a link to a site that says Columbia may have pressed some vertical discs for a client.
Regards,
J.
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Post by gramophoneshane on Nov 15, 2006 9:10:58 GMT -5
All my early columbias are laterals as well.
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Post by maroongem on Nov 15, 2006 9:15:08 GMT -5
John,
I know Columbia was experimenting with vertical cut discs prior to 1910, but I don't believe any of those were released commercially.
Series:
7000s -(c. 1904/1909-1910)
8000s (c.1910)
14500s (1908-1909)
15200s (c. 1909-1910)
It would be interesting if someone had records with the preceding series numbers in their possession!!!
Bill
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Post by gramophoneshane on Nov 15, 2006 9:19:44 GMT -5
According to C proudfoots "collecting phonographs & gramophones", columbia did make verticals for their first disc graphophone (the toy graphophone of 1899-1900)
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Post by maroongem on Nov 15, 2006 9:29:44 GMT -5
I think John was referring to discs that could be played on regular machines that were designed to play vertical cut recordings such as the Pathe and Brunswick(with the Ultona head) and not the McDonald's "Toy" that played wax discs with a cylinder type reproducer. (Although I wouldn't mind owning one of those little buggers!)
Bill
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Post by gramophoneshane on Nov 15, 2006 9:40:06 GMT -5
The only cylinder company I know of that was selling both lateral and vertical records before 1910 was clarion.
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Post by gramophoneshane on Nov 25, 2006 15:42:10 GMT -5
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Post by neophone on Nov 29, 2006 1:36:45 GMT -5
UPDATE:This fellow has popped into another thread on the Phonoland board with his Columbia Vertical Record stuff  I'm starting to think his end gate is off it's hinge, maybe his 2/4 minute lever is jammed? ;D Seriously, I think he's confusing cylinders and discs. I can't think of another reason he's insisting Columbia made hill & dale records before 1901. The did but they weren't flat. Thank you very much-you know who, for helping a Saintly Soul in a hostile land . He's putting a good word in for you with the Big Guy: TAE ;D Regards, J.
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Post by gramophoneshane on Nov 29, 2006 7:15:12 GMT -5
Maybe you should ask him to post a photo of the label. You might get a pic of a cylinder box lid!
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Post by neophone on Nov 29, 2006 20:15:53 GMT -5
Maybe you should ask him to post a photo of the label. You might get a pic of a cylinder box lid! Shane I'll bet you right! I did ask him to post a photo of a Columbia Graf with a original vertical reproducer. I think he's primarily a collector of later electric phonographs, yet he's convinced of his limited knowledge of earlier machines. I don't like to argue with other collectors on these boards. We all are on a on a constant learning curve when it comes to these wonderful old machines. None of us knows it all. I come here and other boards to learn and have fun. (Talk about excitement!  ) I don't like to butt heads, I do enough of that dealing with the public in work. However in this instance, I can't stand by and watch someone give out faulty information to new hobbists. At this point after many hours of on-line research and consultation with more than one respected collector I'm convinced he's wrong. I'm always interested in learning new things and I approached this objectively (I think) but I can find nothing to substantiate his claim. Gad, I do go on don't I! Regards, J. |
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I'm starting to think his end gate is off it's hinge, maybe his 2/4 minute lever is jammed? ;D
) I don't like to butt heads, I do enough of that dealing with the public in work. However in this instance, I can't stand by and watch someone give out faulty information to new hobbists. At this point after many hours of on-line research and consultation with more than one respected collector I'm convinced he's wrong. I'm always interested in learning new things and I approached this objectively (I think) but I can find nothing to substantiate his claim. Gad, I do go on don't I!