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Post by jonlem1 on Dec 28, 2008 20:35:56 GMT -5
I need to know where to go to get a new needle and diaphram for a b-19 disc player that I just purchased. - also any information reguarding what the b-19 in generally good condition is worth
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Post by maroongem on Dec 28, 2008 23:41:50 GMT -5
Hi and welcome to the board! You can get the parts you need from Ron Stiko @ (518) 371-8549. It's difficult to give a price on your B-19 Chalet without seeing it, but they seem to start around $275.00+.
Bill
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Post by jonlem1 on Dec 29, 2008 21:56:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the help - I called Ron and the parts are on the way - is their a thread somewhere or good help somewhere on the procedure for replacing the stylus and diaphram? - also - any links to serial number data? has anyone put serial number data together that helps date the machine? The latest patent date on my b-19 is 1916, so that puts mine sometime between introduction of the b-19 in 1919 to the next patent date added to the plates I guess. (sm-11745)
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Post by maroongem on Dec 30, 2008 6:02:05 GMT -5
There is no serial number data for that machine as far as dating. Does you machine have the mute ball? The earliest Chalets were berift of this feature. My Chalet's serial number is SM- I1734 and doesn't have the mute ball. If you would like, I will install your stylus and diaphragm gratis and tune it up if you wish, PM me if this interests you.
Bill
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Post by jonlem1 on Dec 30, 2008 9:37:32 GMT -5
Bill, Im learning how to use the board, will try to find your e-mail - thanks for the great offer on installation of the stylus, Im sure that would be a huge benefit because I have never changed one! - will try the e-mail, also - My srial number has the "I" also, I listed it as a "1" but it is "I" - so our machines are very close - Pardon my "dum dum ness" what is the mute ball??
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Post by maroongem on Dec 30, 2008 12:19:33 GMT -5
The mute ball is an assembly that allows you to mute the sound via a sliding lever found on the front left of your motorboard. The kapok filled ball was moved in and out of the mouth of the horn by this lever and wire system. Here are a few pix of our B-19 w/matching base. Bill
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Post by jonlem1 on Dec 31, 2008 19:05:38 GMT -5
Thanks for the photos! that is a nice machine. I have laways wanted an edison Disc, I have a cylinder machine and 13 victors! Thanks for the info on the mute ball, I saw one today at an antique store with the mute ball. Mine does not have that feature. I am trying to collect serial number data, I have an old sales record from a drug store with lots of info on it.
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Post by jonlem1 on Jan 2, 2009 9:32:57 GMT -5
Bill, on your b-19 have you noticed a casting number on the bed plate underside between a mounting ear and the governor wheel? mine is 18 - also - does your b-19 have a stamped set of numbers on the underside of the bed plate just behind the front edge above the rim of the bell of the horn? mine does and I suspect this is a serial number for the machine itself. Last but not least on your b-19 cabinet is there a stamped number on the cabinet bottom just behind the grill?? mine is "340" - then in wax or chalk on the left and right wall of the cabinet there are initials and an "x" - does yours have those?
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Post by maroongem on Jan 3, 2009 1:23:09 GMT -5
Hi, Yes there is a mold number in that 1st location you mention, #11. In the 2nd location, there are no numbers stamped there. #160 is stamped on the bottom of the cabinet directly behind the grille. There are no cabinet inspector's chalk marks on the inside of either wall and I need to remove a 1/4 of dust on the bottom to see if there are any down there!
Bill
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Post by jonlem1 on Jan 3, 2009 10:35:04 GMT -5
my machine has very heavily stamped - (you can tell they are individually stamped) leeters and numbers on the underside of the bed - P 76648 - The wax or cdhalk initials in the cabinet appear to be GF in script - which leads me to believe they might be the the assembly man or as you said - inspector. I work for Ford Motor and I restor model T's - so you can see why Im so inquisitive - we have discovered many things about our fords that are common. It would be interesting to see if those cabinet samped numbers are all over the spectrum, or if there are a batch that all match - indicating the cabinet builder - I started a comprehensive data sheet for the b-19 - if you have fellow machine owners you know of who can provide me with these same details about their b-19's I would appreciate it. now for the final qiestion - along the underside front edge of your bed plate - are there 2 bosses with tiny holes drilled and tapped in them - close to where a mute ball lever is generally located? I am starting to suspect something here, that is associated also with those 11 and 18 casting numbers.elaborate further
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Post by maroongem on Jan 3, 2009 11:14:39 GMT -5
Those tapped flats on the underside front edge of the bedplate are for the brackets that held the cable assembly for the mute ball. Edsion used the same standard bedplate in all his later machines after about 1915. The variations found would be plating (gold,nickel & oxidized), number of mainsprings and the later attachments for long play, but the basic bedplate would be interchangeable with any machine. The casting numbers would more than likely be for QC, ie; if there was a problem with a particular mold , it could be checked via the number on the bedplate.
Bill
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Post by jonlem1 on Jan 3, 2009 14:29:09 GMT -5
Thanks for all the help. ( I get the feeling that new guys who want to really do some heavy research to try and help are kind of pushed away here.)
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Post by maroongem on Jan 3, 2009 15:03:30 GMT -5
Thanks for all the help. ( I get the feeling that new guys who want to really do some heavy research to try and help are kind of pushed away here.) Er, I don't think I was pushing you away, was I? Nor have I seen any evidence of other members here being unhelpful. I tried to answer each of your questions to the best of my ability. Bill
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Post by 3victrolas on Jan 3, 2009 16:08:38 GMT -5
Here are a few pix of our B-19 w/matching base. Bill Very very nice! Another must have to add to my list!
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Post by maroongem on Jan 3, 2009 17:37:43 GMT -5
Thanks Sharon!
They sound pretty good with an Edisonic or a Dance Reproducer. But I have to admit, I don't think I would have bought it if it didn't have the base. They are darn heavy and an odd size for the average table.
Bill
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