Looking for Gold Moulded Cylinders

[steve]

When I am able I will call you and let you hear the difference.

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Thanks!

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Good News I found another Gold Moulded Cylinder, with no mold. 12927 Sons of the Brave March. Bad News after playing it, there is now a long scratch, and a few pits. That were not there when I bought it. So I have lost another good cylinder. Bummer! However, I still have three good Gold Moulded cylinders, and the Wizard Record From Peter. To be on the safe side, I may buy more cylinders from Peter. Also, when I demonstrate my cylinder machine, I will use the cylinder, I bought from Peter.

Still have not found any more Blue Amberols, but I'm still hopeful. I keep finding the Gold Moulded one's.

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Looking for 2 min. Cylinders, is a bit tricky. Sometimes I get lucky, and other times not. I always seem to find bad cylinders, instead of good ones. Which is really a shame. During one of my last antique trips, with my father. I thought, I had hit the mother load, and found a box full of cylinders, but there was not a single decent one in the box. One was even in peices. OUCH! Most antique dealers that sell them have know idea, that they really are not worth anything. The'll find a bunch of cylinders and try to sell, them in there booth. Not realizeing, that they are no good. They just think, they are just a neat couriosity.

It's just a shame to find bad ones, because they were never takeing care of in the first place. I was lucky to find three decent ones. The last cylinder I bought, has a bad pit in it, and it's no longer playable. Trying to find a decent one is hard enough, but to find one at a decent price, is even harder. The one's I find on ebay, are $9.99 and up, for just one. I would buy a "lot", but there is usually a 50:50 chance that maybe half will be bad? Also there is a lot of competition on ebay as well, when a "lot" of cylinders is listed. I also have the same problem with DD's although I do have better luck finding decent DD's. After all I do have 30 DD's. As opposed to my three Gold Moulded Cylinders.

I would love to find more 2 minute cylinders, but alas, there is not a lot of cylinders, or phonographs for sale in my home state. Antique phonographs are not a big thing in Maryland.

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I would like to reiderate, my orginal question, about not being able to find 2 minute cylinders. I was wrong. Turns out in fact, that I am able to find more Edsion Gold Moulded cylinders, then I was able to before. Having accumilated 50 cylinders, has changed my perceiption, of not being able to find them. Being presistent, and by going back to the same places, time and time again, I was able to get lucky in finding Edsion 2 M cylinders. By doing a more travleing, and revisitng place's I have been to before, has paid off.

Not being able to find cylinders, for sale in Maryland, turned out to be wrong as well. Since I was able to find 18 2minute cylinders, just recently. As for findng the machines? That is no longer a problem. In hindsite off all this, I should remeber, not too give up so quickly. After all, through constant seraching, my efforts were paid off.

One last point I would like to add. I was reading a question on, Phil's website, on Buying an Amberol Phonograph, and Blue Amberol Cylinders, for a beginner. That someone who is going to buy, their first Cylinder Machine, should buy an Amberola, and Blue Amberol cylinders, becuse these are more plentifull. I beg to differ, since I have found more 2 minute cylinders, and 2 minute machines, then 4 Minute Machines, and 4 minute cylinders. The reason, Phil Suggests buying a 4 minute machine, and 4 minute cylinders, is due to the number of moldy or broken cylinders, that he has come accross. I see his point. Too me, it really all depends, on the area, in whihc you live that you can find more of one thing, over the other. I did however, find an Amberola Machine, in a tiny antique shop, in Harpers Ferry, WV. The owner wanted more money then I was willing to spend. Buying, in antique malls, and or shops, can be risky, but I did buy my frist machine, from an antique mall. Of course, I paid too much for it, but I figure, you only live once. I know there are people, who are selling completely restored machines, but at some of their prices, it's not worth.

BTW: I think, the most of the Edsion 2 minute machines, should be sold with a slightly lower price tag, say between $295-$300? Well, at least around where I live, since I have come across quite a few, but this is just my opinion.

Paul

[phonophil]

Jan 10, 2008 9:20:12 GMT -5 @paul1971 said:

...One last point I would like to add. I was reading a question on, Phil's website, on Buying an Amberol Phonograph, and Blue Amberol Cylinders, for a beginner. That someone who is going to buy, their first Cylinder Machine, should buy an Amberola, and Blue Amberol cylinders, becuse these are more plentifull. I beg to differ, since I have found more 2 minute cylinders, and 2 minute machines, then 4 Minute Machines, and 4 minute cylinders. The reason, Phil Suggests buying a 4 minute machine, and 4 minute cylinders, is due to the number of moldy or broken cylinders, that he has come accross. I see his point. Too me, it really all depends, on the area, in whihc you live that you can find more of one thing, over the other....

Paul, my comments are based on my experiences living in the upper mid-west. I have found plenty of Gold Moulded cylinders in Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Illinois. The only problem was that they were either damaged or way too expensive ($15 each or higher).

Recently, I was contacted by a visitor to my website who was kind enough to ship me about 70 wax cylinders for free. All I had to do was pay shipping. She lives in Philadelphia and the records were in her house when she bought it. For some reason, she hung on to them for many years, but they were unboxed and she was tired of moving them around to clean. To make a long story short, I ended up with about 40 that were playable.... some in excellent condition. Lot's of great recordings. Best of all, by the time I acquired empy cylinder boxes and paid the postage, they only cost me a couple of bucks a piece! I'm now putting a lot of wear on the 2-minute gearing on my Standard.