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Post by sandwichpuncher on Dec 28, 2009 14:19:25 GMT -5
Hi everyone,
I'm brand new here on these boards and have what is probably a very basic question. I just received an Edison Standard for Christmas, my first phonograph of any kind. I've spent a few hours with it and am really pleased with the condition and the results so far. But before I get much further I want to ask a question about cranking. What is the typical amount of cranking required for playing one or two cylinders? My phonograph has responded best to being cranked until I literally can't crank-no-more, but it also works sometimes with minimal cranking. Is it harmful to crank until you start getting lots of tension? Is there a standard cranking amount for the Standard? Any help would be great!
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shellophone
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Post by shellophone on Dec 28, 2009 15:01:39 GMT -5
Over-concern about how much to crank the mainspring is common among newbies. Just crank until you feel an increasing resistance -- but still could crank one or two more times to fully wind the spring -- and stop. When you are finished listening, allow the motor to run itself down. This does two things: it allows the spring to spend most of its time in a relaxed state so that the crystalline structure does not develop a memory of being wound and lose power, and, become more prone to breaking; it allows the grease (you have already or plan to clean and re-grease the mainspring, right?) to fully distribute through the coils every time the machine is wound and played.
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Post by sandwichpuncher on Dec 28, 2009 17:54:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the tips! I bought the machine restored, clean, and greased up so it's in good condition. Now it's off to plug through the 80 or so cylinders I got with it!
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shellophone
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Post by shellophone on Dec 28, 2009 18:26:46 GMT -5
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Post by nipper on Dec 30, 2009 9:29:54 GMT -5
proper lubrication and keeping it clean are also very important to playing as well. where two of the same type metal/same material gears meet use grease and where a steel gear and brass gear meet use oil,all of the top work uses oil, i use a product avaliable from auto supply stores called moly graph-grease with graphite already mixed in for motor and similar grear lubrication and a light weight machine oil of choice.
bill
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Post by NashTwin8 on Jan 3, 2010 23:47:15 GMT -5
where two of the same type metal/same material gears meet use grease and where a steel gear and brass gear meet use oil. Bill, I'm curious about your advice regarding use of grease or oil, depending on the materials of the meshing gears. I am no mechanical expert, but I have never heard this before. My understanding has been that oil and grease are two different types of lubricants, designed for different kinds of conditions (different kinds of bearings or wearing surfaces). Namely, oil flows, and grease sticks in place. Why would you use oil with gears of different metals, and grease with gears of the same metal? Thanks for your thoughts. Jerry K |
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Post by matty on Jan 4, 2010 4:41:29 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I think it's got something to do with one metal being softer than the other, & the grease trapping any worn metal, turning it into a cutting compound??
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Post by nipper on Jan 6, 2010 8:04:15 GMT -5
i think i read doing the lubrication like this from dennis valentis apsco site a few years ago.
bill
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