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Post by maroongem on May 11, 2007 12:43:35 GMT -5
This always strikes me as funny when sellers tout "Come Josephine In My Flying Machine" as a Titanic song. This is because the song was heard in the background of the movie "Titanic." Interestingly enough, the BA version wasn't released until Oct. 1913, more that a YEAR after the Titanic sunk in Apr of 1912! Now, if you were selling the Amberol version # 655, you could get away with such nonsense as that was released in Apr 1911, although all bets are off if it was released AFTER Apr 15 1912 as this is when the Titanic slipped beneath the waves. Not to mention, we have no way of knowing this record was even aboard the Titanic!!!! As King Mike McDonald(the father of the Irish mobster) once said, "There's a sucker born every minute!" Bill cgi.ebay.com/Edison-phonograph-cylinder-record-HOT-TITANIC-SONG_W0QQitemZ140113956825QQihZ004QQcategoryZ38029QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Post by gramophoneshane on May 11, 2007 15:15:33 GMT -5
Some of the utter rubbish some of these guys come up with is bizaar. They're really not doing themselves any favours either. Its not ofter that hard to tell the BS artists for the genuine uninformed/ misinformed sellers. And all so they can try and catch someone out and make a couple extra bucks. I find the 2 "I know nothing about it" extremes funny. One will give you all the hype with recording dates etc,though they know nothing about it. The other who knows nothing except it's very rare and extremely valuable  Now I know how to sell all those "Nearer my god to thee" records! It's a "Titanic" song! YIPPY!! |
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Post by rocky on May 11, 2007 15:15:49 GMT -5
Didn't Edison dealers receive their shipment of records early in the month with a warning not to sell the records until a given date? You know, there's always the possibility that a renegate seller played the Amberol of "Come Josephine..." aboard the Titanic prior to the official release date. And maybe Edison found out about it and had the ship sunk to punish the seller. Hmm! Now we know the real reason the Titanic sunk!
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Rocky
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Post by neophone on May 12, 2007 3:28:03 GMT -5
Bill, Considering the prices he's getting for some of his stuff, he doesn't need to resort to such spurious connections. Although I (hate to) observe that right now that cylinder is in the lead price-wise. I couldn't get the link to work, was it this one? tinyurl.com/2t2lhl I wonder if the buyer will be disappointed when he/she finds out it's not the DiCaprio/Winslet version.  Regards, J. |
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Post by maroongem on May 12, 2007 8:52:27 GMT -5
Yes John, that's the record. I've seen it go as high as $150.00, and it's certainly not a rare record. I have a copy of it on U-S Everlasting by Henry Burr & Ada Jones, and I think it's as good as the Murray/Jones version.
I like Rocky's take on how the Titanic really sunk!!!!! ;D
Bill
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Post by rocky on May 12, 2007 13:15:41 GMT -5
I guess that rarity is certainly not the only factor that affects the value of a record. If demand is greater than supply, then a relatively common record may command a high price.
Cylinders have a magical, mythical aura in the minds of collectors, resulting in the following phonomathematical formula:
Perennial favorite + cylinder rendition = $$$$
Rocky
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Post by neophone on May 12, 2007 14:35:17 GMT -5
Rocky, Song titles that would be recognised by "non-collectors" always seem to get a bit more than less well known titles. And yes it does seem cylinders have some sort of magical quality. Regards, J. |
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Post by condensite on May 12, 2007 16:05:49 GMT -5
Didn't the story of this song being linked to the Titanic sinking begin when it was sung in the movie "Titanic" from a few years back?
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Post by gramophoneshane on May 12, 2007 18:22:46 GMT -5
Also I think the theme of the song helps. A flying machine, Henry's ford etc. It's the same for old post cards really, early transport, natural or man made disasters-ie;train/plain crash,floods,WWI related etc, all fetch higher prices than the run-of- the-mill stuff.
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Post by neophone on May 13, 2007 2:23:52 GMT -5
Didn't the story of this song being linked to the Titanic sinking begin when it was sung in the movie "Titanic" from a few years back? Condensite, As far as I know that's the only connection between the two. Regards, J. |
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Post by rocky on May 13, 2007 10:48:52 GMT -5
Victor recorded two versions of the song in November, 1910--less than two years before the ship went down. I'm sure the tune was well known to the majority of passengers aboard the ship.
Rocky
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Post by neophone on May 13, 2007 14:42:30 GMT -5
Rocky,
Probably not. Most of the people onboard were very poor Europeans coming to America for the first time. I'll bet a lot of them had never heard a phonograph. Those that had most likely hadn't heard much "American" music. Most of the well to do on board, as well, probably weren't very familiar with popular music. That's not to say I think nobody aboard had ever heard it.
Regards,
J.
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