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Post by poconosteve1 on Feb 22, 2016 20:08:45 GMT -5
Recently purchased a Standard with serial number 769432. Can anyone assist with when this machine was produced? and model? Think it may be a C. It is an ICS machine.... Thanks in advance!
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Post by martinola on Feb 22, 2016 22:51:54 GMT -5
I happened to note your machine in my database when it was on ebay. You are correct, it is a Standard Model C made for the International Correspondence School. The model type should be indicated on the top of your patent plate. I have not heard of any existing sales data on Edison phonographs past the year of 1908. In the later years of production it becomes difficult to guess when a machine was produced. Model C and D machines were concurrently produced with the Model B for a while and it's anybody's guess what machines were shipped when. Using the crude estimating tool of saying production was about 3500 a month, that might put your machine about September of 1911. It's slightly better than a wild guess. You may want to check out this article on the Antique Phonograph Society website. www.antiquephono.org/spotters-guide-edison-standard-phonograph/There are other cool articles as well. They've got a great magazine that's easily worth the modest membership fee. Here's their main page: www.antiquephono.org/I'll be interested in hearing how you're getting on with your new machine. Hope this helps! Martin
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Post by poconosteve1 on Feb 23, 2016 6:54:51 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the info. Yes, I was reading the spotters guide as well as other articles at antiquephono.org. Its a great site. Thats where I figured it may have been a C. The model C ICS machine they show there, looks just like the one I purchased. They indicated that the C was only made for New York state? What are your thoughts on that? Due to a suit that Edison was involved in?
I think its really great that you are maintaining a database of these machines. I was corresponding on this forum about a year ago.. and have the late model A Standard with serial #240416 with 3-screw base. I was told manufactured Ocober of 1905.
Thanks again for your assistance and information. These are really great machines that even after 100+ years..provide a lot of enjoyment! Steve
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Post by martinola on Feb 23, 2016 11:05:52 GMT -5
It's my guess that only the early Model C (perhaps 1908/1909) was restricted to New York. Edison was trying to use up their Model B castings in the rest of the world. Once the old castings were cleared out, all of the newer models were based on the Model D/C bedplates. The Model C was great for the ICS as it was a two minute machine and was useful because of its recording capability. I believe that the four minute recorder wasn't offered until 1912. Anyway, cool machine Steve.
Martin
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Post by lucius1958 on Feb 24, 2016 0:07:38 GMT -5
The NY restriction (in early Model Cs) was indeed due to a court case, which forced Edison to give up features such as the endgate and the built-in shaver (not that the Standard was using shavers by then)...
We'd love to see some photos of the machine!
BillS
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Post by poconosteve1 on Feb 24, 2016 6:54:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the info! I guess Edison did pretty well then since endgate wasn't really needed after the redesign to eliminate it..and shaver never really worked well. I have one on my late A. I'll send some pics of the C once received. Being shipped to me now...lol. Thanks again to all, for providing insight...
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Post by nefaurora on Feb 29, 2016 9:00:20 GMT -5
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Post by victorr on Jul 15, 2016 3:28:01 GMT -5
I recently purchased a home phonograph Serial #323168. With the last patent date may 22 1906. The reproducer is a model C. Dark chocolate color wood, with the Edison gold logo in front. It's in grest condition.can any help on what model I have.
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Post by lucius1958 on Jul 15, 2016 22:30:20 GMT -5
I recently purchased a home phonograph Serial #323168. With the last patent date may 22 1906. The reproducer is a model C. Dark chocolate color wood, with the Edison gold logo in front. It's in grest condition.can any help on what model I have. Sounds as if it might be a model D, but pictures would be a great help. BillS
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Post by victorr on Jul 18, 2016 3:09:54 GMT -5
Thanks,I agree with you on it beinG a model D. I'm new to board and not quite sure how to post the pictures you suggested. Please Advice
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Post by victorr on Jul 18, 2016 3:17:44 GMT -5
Hi BillS, can text your email and send the puctures?
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Post by victorr on Jul 18, 2016 3:17:58 GMT -5
Hi BillS, can text your email and send the puctures?
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Post by lucius1958 on Jul 19, 2016 2:35:10 GMT -5
If you click "edit" on your post, you will see a tab that says "add attachment". Open this, and drag your photo files into the space provided.
BillS
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Post by martinola on Jul 20, 2016 10:57:07 GMT -5
Hi Victorr! Sorry I'm late to the party. The Home serial number you list, 323168, would put it into the last months of model B production. If it were a model C, D, E or F, it would be on the patent plate either in a model type window or following the serial number. The model A & B machines were not marked with a model type. The sure way to tell if it is not a model C/D/E/F is if it has an endgate swing arm at the right side of the mandrel. If it does have one, it is either a model A or B.
The model C (the machine model type - not the reproducer model type) seems to appear in the 337000s and the model D around 339000. Hope this helps. Best Regards, Martin
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Post by mark on Jan 21, 2017 10:36:34 GMT -5
I recently came in possession of a Edison Gem Serial # 222711. There are 6 different dates on serial # plate. So I have no idea the age or any information on the amazing piece. Can anyone point me in right direction on how to start to do some research?
Thank You
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