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Post by oswi01 on Jun 28, 2017 4:16:04 GMT -5
Hello! I use a Edison Standard Model B, mainly for digitizing cylinder records via the Canaphonic Archivette, which I guess some of you are familiar with. The reults are over all very good! I've run across a problem with a few cylinder though, most of them are brown wax (home recordings or small commercial productions) but one is a black 2 minute wax cylinder from british Clarion Records. These cylinders have the groove extending very far right on the cylinder which means that the feed screw ends before the recording does, which makes the reproducer stick in repeat before the song is over. Does this have to do with different standards on early machines? All Edison Records cylinders I have play perfectly, as you would imagine. Is there a work-around for this problem, so that I could make a digital recording of the whole cylinder? I have a reamer but I'm guessing that reaming a wax cylinder is not a very good idea. Also, the cylinders fit the mandrel nicely, with the end of the cylinder in line with the end of the mandrel. I'm thankful for any reply! My best, Oscar
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Post by billcahill on Jun 28, 2017 6:27:20 GMT -5
Sometimes the cylinder isn't going far enough on the mandrel to be able to finish the record. That's an age problem. Occasionally, the carriage can be adjusted for this. De[ends on the reproducer, and, carriage. Bill Cahill
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Post by oswi01 on Jun 28, 2017 15:42:44 GMT -5
Sometimes the cylinder isn't going far enough on the mandrel to be able to finish the record. That's an age problem. Occasionally, the carriage can be adjusted for this. De[ends on the reproducer, and, carriage. Bill Cahill Well, obviously if I could put these cylinders further in on the mandrel it would solve my problem. However, they do have pretty much the same fit as my other wax cylinders, the right-hand side of the mandrel pretty much in line with the edge of the cylinder itself. The difference is that the mentioned cylinders have recorded groove that ends about 2 milimeters from the cylinders right-hand edge, whereas a typical Edison Records-cylinder seems to have about a 10 milimeter gap. I use a Edison Standard model B with combination gearing and a reproduction model B reproducer, I don't see how carriage or reproducer could be adjusted to fix this issue.
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Post by alang on Jun 30, 2017 14:23:16 GMT -5
If the feed screw really ends before the cylinder ends then I think the only option would be to VERY CAREFULLY ream out a tiny bit to allow the cylinder a bit further onto the mandrel. If the feed screw does not end there but simply repeats then there could be some damage to the threads of the feed screw at that specific point. You can ream wax cylinders, but like I said very carefully so not to remove too much material. Good luck Andreas
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Post by wagnerian on Jul 2, 2017 9:15:09 GMT -5
The other thing to remember is that many Clarion records are longer than the standard Edison/Columbia length. The same also applies to the British made Sterling and Edison Bell cylinders. It could just be that they have shrunk slightly over the last 100 years. There's not much you can really do with them except as Andreas suggests, very carefully score out the centre.
Tim W-W
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Post by oswi01 on Jul 3, 2017 0:57:52 GMT -5
Ok, thanks! No damage to the feed screw as far as I can tell. I probably won't ream these cylinders seeing that they mostly are fairly unique brown wax recordings. Better to just let them be!
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