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Post by audioninja on May 30, 2009 14:29:28 GMT -5
Hi all,
I found an old Model WMC-33 "William and Mary Console" in a thrift store, but it doesn't have the crank. I found several types on ebay, but don't know which type it is. Does anyone here know?
Thanks
Stephen
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shellophone
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Post by shellophone on May 30, 2009 15:14:51 GMT -5
Same as all DD Phonographs -- a male thread; and same length as a C-19/C-250. Metal finish would need to match.
John M
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Post by maroongem on May 30, 2009 20:32:16 GMT -5
The crank for this would have to be longer than the standard Edison upright DD machines due to the crank having to span the record storage area before it reaches the winding shaft. I recently parted out a BC-34, which is also a console and I may still have the crank for it. I'm not sure if it went with the motor or not.
Bill
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Post by shellophone on May 31, 2009 21:26:07 GMT -5
Bill, You are so right! I missed the 'console' part of that . . . whoops! I was thinking of the upright. Sorry!
John
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Post by audioninja on Jun 1, 2009 8:33:07 GMT -5
I don't actually have the wmc-33 yet, but am considering buying it. It doesn't have the grill or the crank, and the needle may be iffy...no way to know on that since I can't wind her up at th moment. In searching for a crank, I found some on ebay that are slotted at the end, or threaded, and maybe others. Right now the person selling it has it at a flea market. She claimed to have tested it, but when called and asked about the crank, she didn't know anything about that and thought that it plugged into a wall outlet, so I doubt it has been tested. Right now she is asking $200.00, but in it's condition and without being able to actually test it, I won't pay over $125.00.
Thanks for the info Bill, but no point in looking just yet. Do you know if it is threaded or not?
Thanks again,
Stephen
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Post by larryh on Jun 1, 2009 8:46:58 GMT -5
Yes the crank is threaded and would be much longer than a normal edison crank.
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Post by maroongem on Jun 1, 2009 17:18:07 GMT -5
If you want my honest opinion Stephen, I'd pass on this machine and look for a complete one that you can listen to. Finding the grille will be tough (as it is unique to this machine)and if the Reproducer needs a re-build and stylus, that alone can run you well over $125.00. I don't have the crank for the BC-34 that I parted out, it must have gone with the motor/horn assembly when I sold it.
Bill
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Post by audioninja on Jun 3, 2009 7:44:03 GMT -5
Bill, Thanks for the info and opinion. I will pass on it. Too bad though. I figured the grill would be hard to find, but kinda liked the open view with the horn and it's damper, even more so since the horn swivels. I have been comletely taken by more current horn type speaker cabinets, and have designed several myself that utilize a single full range speaker. It would have been neat to have an early edison working horn. I know this isn't the proper forum, but If you are curious as to my horn models, check out: www.fullranger.com Thanks again for the info. User forums are one of the best assets of the internet.  |
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Post by matty on Jun 3, 2009 7:51:36 GMT -5
They've got to be some of the coolest speakers ever made!
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Post by maroongem on Jun 3, 2009 15:47:22 GMT -5
I concur with Shane!! Very wild designs. Did you base the design on the exponential horns of the Victor/HMV machines?
Bill
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Post by audioninja on Jun 4, 2009 10:16:42 GMT -5
Thanks guys, Actually that link took you to the old site. It is fixed now. The new website is just getting started, but you can see the five current models of horn type speakers. The tallest were featured at the 2008 rocky mountain audiofest along with the smallest nautilus type horn. In my opinion the best is the 2nd from the end. Thanks agian! Stephen |
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Post by audioninja on Jun 7, 2009 16:43:07 GMT -5
Hi all, I did purchase the wmc-33. The caarank is missing, so I found a piece of threaded rod that was the right size. I cut it to fit with two nuts tightened together at the end. Wrapped a bit of duct tape on the threads where it might rub on the cabinet hole, got out the craftsman socket wrench, and VIOLA! This plays the 1/4" records. What do I need to do to play 78s? Thanks! Stephen |
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Post by larryh on Jun 7, 2009 16:54:26 GMT -5
You need an adaptor that was made to fit in the edison tone arm instead of the edison reproducer. However they bring big bucks on ebay and rarely show up anywhere else. You might look though the Edison things on ebay to get a feel for what they sell for. You can click the "completed" items at the left side of the page of items to see what they have finished for.
Larry
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