mikec
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Post by mikec on Feb 7, 2008 9:48:23 GMT -5
I recently purchased a Lakeside 1077 My Old Kentucky Home cylinder..........
Does anyone know the date and if this is a 2 or 4 min ( am still new and like to check before I play) I believe it is a 2 from what I know.....It is black, flat top where the title is, but hesitate due to the "indestructible" on the container.
Appreciate any help
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Post by lukewarmwater on Feb 7, 2008 9:54:04 GMT -5
Will be 2 unless they say 4. Luke W.
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Post by maroongem on Feb 7, 2008 11:07:29 GMT -5
Mike,
Even if it's a 2M and you play it with a 4M stylus, no harm will be done. The 4M stylus is actually smaller(narrower) than the 2M as the 4M cylinder had more grooves per inch (200 as opposed to 100). On the other hand, you won't get far on a 4M cylinder with a 2M stylus before it starts to jump the groove.
If you are using a Diamond B reproducer, you can safely play both 2&4M celluloid cylinders.
Your Lakeside is from 1912-1913.
Bill
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mikec
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Post by mikec on Feb 7, 2008 11:37:13 GMT -5
Thanks guys..............
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Post by walrus on Feb 7, 2008 17:10:13 GMT -5
Is it better to play 2M celluloid cylinders with a Diamond B than with a 2-minute sapphire stylus? How's the sound?
Also, did the reproducers made by U-S for their machines have sapphire styli?
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Post by maroongem on Feb 7, 2008 23:01:17 GMT -5
Is it better to play 2M celluloid cylinders with a Diamond B than with a 2-minute sapphire stylus? How's the sound? Also, did the reproducers made by U-S for their machines have sapphire styli? Personally, I would never say better, just a alternative. The diamond will bring out more from the groove IMHO than a sapphire. As far as I know, all machines made by the U.S. Phonograph Co. of Cleveland Ohio had only sapphire styluses on their machines. Bill |
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phonophil
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Post by phonophil on May 16, 2008 12:39:06 GMT -5
Mike, 4-minute Lakeside/U-S cylinders have "4M" imprinted on the title end. Also, "Lakeside" was the private label brand name sold by Montgomery Ward.
Although 4M Lakesides and U-S cylinders sound wonderful, they tend to shrink a lot more than Blue Amberols, so they have a propensity to skip. Albany Indestructibles/Columbia 4Ms have the same problem. I am not buying any more non-Edisons unless they are 2-minute. The grooves are much wider and have a coarser pitch, so shrinkage will not be a problem.
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Post by maroongem on May 16, 2008 17:03:39 GMT -5
Albany Indestructibles/Columbia 4Ms have the same problem. You're right about that, Phil. The Lakesides were made by the Albany Indestructible Co. as well and the pale blue Oxfords that were made for Sears are even worse for shrinkage, IMHO. These were also made by Albany. Bill |
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phonophil
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Post by phonophil on May 17, 2008 11:41:13 GMT -5
Albany Indestructibles/Columbia 4Ms have the same problem. You're right about that, Phil. The Lakesides were made by the Albany Indestructible Co. as well and the pale blue Oxfords that were made for Sears are even worse for shrinkage, IMHO. These were also made by Albany. Bill Bill, the Lakesides were made by U-S. They have the same asphaltum core. I think the Oxfords were made by Albany. Yes, I have a few pale blue Columbia's in my collection and they are bad skippers. |
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