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Post by gene1157 on Oct 6, 2012 12:50:32 GMT -5
I have an Edison Fireside Phonograph that is missing a couple of parts. I am missing the rubber connector for the horn. Two of the governor springs and the drive belt. The reproducer is in two pieces and I am not sure how it was put together. Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Post by maroongem on Oct 7, 2012 7:08:21 GMT -5
Hi and welcome to the board! The rubber connector, governor springs and drive belt can be obtained from several phonograph suppliers such as APSCO www.antiquephono.com/edmotor.htmor Wyatts www.wyattsmusical.com/They will also have what you need for the Reproducer and if you could post some photos, one of us will be able to tell you what you need if anything is missing. The Fireside normally came with a Mod. K combination Reproducer that allowed 2/4M playback. This will be found stamped on the tail weight. Bill |
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Post by gene1157 on Oct 9, 2012 18:03:13 GMT -5
I have tried contacting them and have not got an answer. i will get you some pics this weekend and I really appreciate any and all help
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Post by gene1157 on Oct 10, 2012 19:09:28 GMT -5
You can see I am missing the governor springs Attachments:
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Post by gene1157 on Oct 11, 2012 4:42:31 GMT -5
this is the underside of the reproducer Attachments:
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Post by gene1157 on Oct 11, 2012 4:43:54 GMT -5
reproducer Attachments:
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Post by lucius1958 on Oct 11, 2012 22:24:11 GMT -5
Well: You've definitely got a model K there.... I can't tell from the quality of the photos, but you might be missing the swivel link between the diaphragm and the stylus bars. If that is so, you had best get a replacement diaphragm (and, of course, gaskets).
Now, is the threaded pin on the hinge block still intact; and is the threaded hole on the upper part of the reproducer still good (not stripped or broken through)? Is the limit loop on the upper part intact, and do you have the limit pin for the weight?
In that case, once you've dealt with the diaphragm and gaskets, you can remove the stylus bars, screw the weight back in (not too tight), reattach the bars to the link and replace their screws. Then screw the limit pin back into the weight, and you're good to go. (That is, if the styli are in good shape: if they have worn spots, they should be turned).
If you have problems with any of these parts, it might be better to send the whole reproducer to any of the folks mentioned above for a professional rebuilding. It'll cost you a bit, but it's worth having the job done right.
Hope this is of help to you.
Bill
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Post by maroongem on Oct 12, 2012 16:54:59 GMT -5
Gene,
From the photo, it appears that the threaded post on the hinge block has broken off and is in the upper body of the Reproducer. Do you know if your Reproducer body is plated brass or potmetal? The late ones were potmetal and sometimes it is impossible to remove the broken post w/o drilling it out. You can often times pick at the post and unscrew it if it is in a brass body and then you can go and replace it with an original hinge. If not, APSCO offers a new hinge with an oversize post that requires a 3/64 drill and an 0-80 tap. I have used five or so of these on various different model Reproducers and they work quite well. The original link on the Fireside diaphragm was meant to swivel on a tiny ball in that small bracket that is soldered to the copper diaphragm. For the link, you can use a piece of wire of the proper diameter (.020) and bend the base of it enough so it will swivel in that bracket if the original is in fact missing and a hook at the top for the two stylus bars.
I can't tell by the photo if the whole governor assembly is missing or just the weights and springs.
Bill
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Post by gene1157 on Oct 13, 2012 6:18:39 GMT -5
the weights and springs are missing for the governor. I need to replace. As for the reproducer it looks ok but the pin and swivel is as you suspect either broken or missing. I would need a drive belt and I am not sure what to use. Otherwise the unit looks good is greased and clean.
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Post by maroongem on Oct 13, 2012 22:48:10 GMT -5
For the drive belt I would suggest leather and steer clear of the "rubber bands" that are offered on eBay. They may work for a while but rubber deteriorates faster than leather and in a few years you may be replacing it. You can send your complete motor assembly and Reproducer to George Vollema www.victroladoctor.com/ after calling him for an estimate on repairs if agreeable. He does good work and his prices are fair. Bill |
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