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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 23:00:08 GMT -5
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Post by lucius1958 on Apr 24, 2017 3:44:40 GMT -5
Well, aside from the title, Ossman cylinders are fairly popular.
As it's a GM selection, it's definitely a later remake, using the same catalogue number: Edison was notorious for that.
The Indestructible is probably less salable, being a hymn tune: those are rather a niche market.
I cannot give any definite values: the best thing to do is to put them up on eBay, give a low starting bid, and plenty of time for the market to do its stuff. In brief, they are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them.
BillS
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Post by collector60490 on Apr 25, 2017 16:21:47 GMT -5
I have quite a few cylinders we would consider racist today and plan to put them on Ebay one at a time... Please remember this fact: these were made when the Civil War was less than 50 years in the past and many potential buyers were around when the war was fought. Also remember there were thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of freed slaves still alive at that time and thousands of former slave owners who considered African-Americans to be "darkies"... and many of the former slaves accepted that definition because that was actually an improvement over their former status as property. Times rapidly changed as those generations died off...and today what horrifies us, was considered "normal" for those generations. That's part of why I find these old racist recordings to be so interesting, they offer an insight into society at the time they were recorded! Yours is especially interesting because of the extreme age..the civil war and slavery had ended just 32 years earlier. Include that in the facts of your listing and you will generate a lot of interest.
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Post by edisonphonoworks on May 3, 2017 21:13:08 GMT -5
In my experience, I find Phonograph Collectors, are more machine collectors, and very few of them actually appreciate or like any of the popular music, or the history of the people of the time. Remember history repeats itself, if you try to politely put it in the closet. The most offended are "liberals" by these records, as the pre Civil war South was the bedrock of their political party and they want to sweep this under the rug, as they are embarrassed by this, while most of their policies, still enslave. And if you call me a racist or bigot, just remember... My daughter is part African American. So yes I find these skits, and songs, offensive, but historically significant. At the same time the skits and songs are well written and entertaining.
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Post by lucius1958 on May 4, 2017 3:58:11 GMT -5
In my experience, I find Phonograph Collectors, are more machine collectors, and very few of them actually appreciate or like any of the popular music, or the history of the people of the time. Remember history repeats itself, if you try to politely put it in the closet. The most offended are "liberals" by these records, as the pre Civil war South was the bedrock of their political party and they want to sweep this under the rug, as they are embarrassed by this, while most of their policies, still enslave. And if you call me a racist or bigot, just remember... My daughter is part African American. So yes I find these skits, and songs, offensive, but historically significant. At the same time the skits and songs are well written and entertaining. I think it may be more accurate to say that modern objections to such content are less due to partisan politics, than to a general cultural change. The parties of a century and a half ago are not the parties of today. We must neither try to justify the darker aspects of our history, nor attempt to erase them. BillS |
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