Amberola I-A

[steve]

Bill,

The wax amberols cylinders have the mold line showing at the bottom at least to number 785 are the later ones like this? The regular two minute cylinders had mold lines but they were removed by Edison on most of the cylinders, 8708 Old Jim's Christmas Hymn retains the mold lines at the bottom because (in my opinion) the grooves go farther to the end.

Steve

[maroongem]

Hi Steve,

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "mold lines" on a cylinder. I'm loooking at my copy of "Old Jim's Christmas Hymn" and 10470 "Mr Editor How Did You Know," and I'm assuming you're referring to the smoothness at the end of the song to the end of the cylinder? On the latter you can definately see a rough line at the end of the cylinder. Is this what you mean?

Bill

[steve]

Hi Bill,

That is what I am talking about. On the wax amberols you see the rough line from the mold, my copy of "Old Jim's Christmas Hymn" has this line also, does yours? Shawn tells me that the wax two minute records were finished with knives once they came from the mold, he thinks they used heated knives and did it when they were first removed from the mold and were still warm and easier to work with.

Steve

[maroongem]

Hi Steve,

Actually, my copy has the smooth edge, so that would make it the wax version. I'm guessing that record was never deleted from the catalog and continued to be made until the end of 2M cylinders. I did notice that the cylinders I have that are of the later material all have mold & take numbers like the BAs, and the wax don't seem to carry them before the mid 9000 series and those only seem to show take dots and no mold numbers.

Bill

[steve]

Hi Bill,

What is the latest regular wax record you have? 10560 is regular wax and says A-PAT'D...9 on it and 10570 is the same. These were made up to 1914 even though no new titles came out past Sept 1912. You are correct my Old Jim is the wax amberol wax, after the PATD is has a 26 raised up that you can see. This one is in such nice shape I thought it was regular wax. I stand corrected and happily so.

It appears to me the latest wax records have the mold and take numbers on them, let me know what you think.

Steve

[maroongem]

steve said:

Hi Bill,

What is the latest regular wax record you have? 15060 is regular wax and says A-PAT'D...9 on it and 15070 is the same. These were made up to 1914 even though no new titles came out past Sept 1912. You are correct my Old Jim is the wax amberol wax, after the PATD is has a 26 raised up that you can see. This one is in such nice shape I thought it was regular wax. I stand corrected and happily so.

It appears to me the latest wax records have the mold and take numbers on them, let me know what you think.

Steve

Hi Steve,

We're still cataloging our 2M cylinders, both Edison & others, but I can tell you right now I have no Edisons that go past the 10xxx block, and was unaware that the Edison 2Ms went as high as the ones you list, as U.S. releases. I know Columbias went up to the 33xxx block in the wax series, as I have a few. I'll let you know what we have for last wax issues etc.

Bill

[steve]

Hi Bill,

I modified the post, I meant 10560 and 10570. 10575 was the highest one released in Sept 1912. Do you have any of the Standard Record boxes? They are fairly hard to find.

Sorry.

Steve

[maroongem]

steve said:

Hi Bill,

I modified the post, I meant 10560 and 10570. 10575 was the highest one released in Sept 1912. Do you have any of the Standard Record boxes? They are fairly hard to find.

Sorry.

Steve

Steve,

I'm not sure if I have any of the Standard boxes or not. Most of the 2M cylinders are on pegs in cylinder cabinets and their boxes are packed away. Was the box red border trimmed top and bottom on the label? If so, I believe I have at least one from what I can remember but it didn't have the lid.

Bill

[steve]

Hi Bill,

I have sent photos to your one e-mail address.

Steve