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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2008 19:42:09 GMT -5
Okay, I bought a bunch of Everlasting & Indestructable cylinders. However, Gramaphoneshane, infromed me that playing these cylinders could damage my saphire stylus. So what type of stylus would I need to play these cylinders?
Paul
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Post by lukewarmwater on Jan 3, 2008 20:17:22 GMT -5
No, they won't hurt your sapphire stylus any more than any record. Sapphire wears faster than diamond, but it will be years of listening before your stylus will need to be turned, and then, it is a simple thing to do or to have done. Play away . . . just be sure they don't say "4M" on the rim or you'll have to use a 4-minute stylus (sapphire is fine for 4M, too). Luke W.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2008 21:12:18 GMT -5
Thank you Luke. Actually, the ones I picked up are all 2 minute cylinders.
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Post by lukewarmwater on Jan 3, 2008 21:15:38 GMT -5
So, where did you find these cylinders? Any good titles? Luke W.
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Post by maroongem on Jan 4, 2008 0:11:44 GMT -5
Paul,
Tell us what you thought about the U.S. Everlastings in regards to quality and which ones you got.
Bill
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Post by maroongem on Jan 4, 2008 2:34:08 GMT -5
Paul,
Out of curiosity, you aked the same question on the OTVMMB. Did you expect a different answer here? Luke pretty well summed it up.
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2008 20:44:51 GMT -5
Hi Luke, I just sumbled upon them, in an antique mall. Some of the Everlasting Cylinders, were in Edison containers, the rest were sitting in a cylinder suitcase.
Well Bill, the Everlasting cylinders, have a different sound quality, then the Gold Moulded ones. There like listening to a DD or a early 78.
Yeah Luke did. Not really, Bill. I just posted on both sites.
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Post by lukewarmwater on Jan 5, 2008 21:25:10 GMT -5
Paul -- I'm excited for you. It is amazing what you will find when you just look. This stuff can be anywhere. I make it a point to bring it up to casual strangers just to see if they have anything at home or know where something is. It is like harvesting coral . . . so much has been harvested that the divers have to go deeper every year. Leave no stone unturned! Chance favors the prepared mind. Luke W.
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Post by maroongem on Jan 5, 2008 21:37:10 GMT -5
You're doing better than I have lately. I'm lucky if I find a Columbia disc from the 40s. I'm partial to the U.S. Everlasts. I think their sound was tops on celluloid.
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2008 19:33:19 GMT -5
Thanks Guys! I thought finding Edsion cylinders was exciteing, but now finding others is even more exciteing. Espically, after talking and learning about the various cylinders, on the net, and then being able to find them in person is a thrill. Most of the cylinders I have are Edsion, Two are Columbia, there are Wizrad's(from Peter) and the rest are the Everlasting, and other Indestructables. I do have two everlasting canisters, but I need to find a few more, empty one's.
I also enjoy telling people about my hobby, and most people I talk too are interested. Of course they are older then me, but that doesn't make a bit of difference. Just having someone listen to me talk about antique phonographs.
I was in New Oxford PA. a few days ago, and found a small Edison cylinder machine, and Morning Glory horn for $450.00. However, I did not see a cranck or a crane for the horn. It looked in good shape. I would have bought it, but I have to pay some bills first, and get a heat pump fixed. I also found a very large witch's hat horn, for $160.00. A little to high priced. I also found two nice table top Victrola's for $295.00, and a Victrola VV 100 for $360.00.
I tend to visit place's that are not visited by a lot of people, plus they tend to be out of the way. Like Emitsburg MD, and New Oxford PA.
I just keep going back to the same place's over and over. I may not get lucky all the time, but every once in awhile, I do hit the jack pot.
Actually Bill, I do come accross quite a few Columbia Dsic's, as well as Brunswick, Decca, O'keh. There is a dealler in Emmitsburg that has close to 1000 78's. Give or take, I never counted.
Paul
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2008 21:26:18 GMT -5
BTW: I have 50 cylinders, that are in playable conditon. This is excludeing the Wizard Cylinders, since they are newer.
Oh, I almost forgot about the 11 Brown wax cylinders too. For a total of 61. These do play, but I do not play them often, since they are fargile.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2008 19:51:44 GMT -5
BTW: Here are the title's of the US Everlasting and other Indestructible's.
Okay Bruce, here are the titles for the US Everlastings.
Me for Michigan- Collins
I looked Just Once ETC.- Roberts
Ragtime Cowboy Joe
The Cat & The Fly paper
Buck and Wing Dance- Violin Solo
These are hard to read, since the is no pigment in the lettering. It looks like, they just stamped the title on the cylinder.
The other cylinders, have no manufactures name, but they are similar to Indestructibles. Since I do not have the original containers, I do not no who Manufactured them?
1151 King Cotton
1147 Wild Cherries
1187 School Days In Truckmuck, Golden & Hughes
1427 Grossmutterchen (The Grandmother’s Song)
1246 Wedding Bells Van Brunt
1279 Goodnight, Dear Mrs. Wheeler
1358 When He Sings the Songs My Mother Sang - Jones
1275 Nobody Knows Where John Brown Went
1536 Along The Rocky Road To Dublin
Paul
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Post by lukewarmwater on Jan 7, 2008 20:41:55 GMT -5
Great titles! The cylinders with the hard to read titles are U-S Everlasting Indestructible cylinders made in Cleveland. They are easily identifiable by the asphaltum impregnated composition paper core. The other cylinders probably have metal rings in the core at the title ends and the 1902 patent date on the rims. Those are Indestructible cylinders from Albany, NY. Again, go to this website: cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/history-indestructible.phpand read about the various celluloid cylinder types. Luke W.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2008 21:00:38 GMT -5
It's a great site. Except for the fact, it tells me I need to download Quicktime, but I keep having problems doing that.
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Post by MT Phono on Jan 8, 2008 13:44:38 GMT -5
Great titles! The cylinders with the hard to read titles are U-S Everlasting Indestructible cylinders made in Cleveland. They are easily identifiable by the asphaltum impregnated composition paper core. The other cylinders probably have metal rings in the core at the title ends and the 1902 patent date on the rims. Those are Indestructible cylinders from Albany, NY. Again, go to this website: cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/history-indestructible.phpand read about the various celluloid cylinder types. Luke W. Luke, Just curious - what makes for "good titles"? Collectibility? Value? Just plain fun music? While I have 1000+ cylinders, to this point I have only played 100 or so. I guess you could call me a machine guy. Obviously some of the cylinders are more appealing to me than others - what should I be looking for in terms of good titles? Thanks, Scott
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