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Post by lucius1958 on Feb 16, 2023 21:28:01 GMT -5
If you go VERY gently over the decal when cleaning, you should be able to avoid damaging it. Some touching up with orange shellac may tone down the spots where the base silver is showing. If worse comes to worst, Greg Cline at phonodecal.com does the best reproductions.
- BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Feb 15, 2023 21:25:51 GMT -5
What you have there is a Model B, from about 1905/6: the reproducer is a Model C.
I would recommend giving the motor and upper works a good cleaning and lubricating with sewing machine oil (NOT 'Three-In-One', as that gums up over time). The reproducer will most likely need new gaskets, and the stylus should be checked for wear: Wyatt Markus is a great person to go to for a rebuild.
For the case, I would first go with a general cleaning (I generally use NON-PUMICE Gojo); then see how it looks. You might be able to get by with some Howard's Feed -n-Wax; or you could try polishing it with some thinned shellac.
As for horns, reproductions of the standard-issue 14 inch horns are readily available; if you want something larger, you will need to get a horn crane to support it (and some rubber tubing to connect the horn with the reproducer). I would suggest looking at the Talking Machine Forum site, in their 'Yankee Trader' section: you can either put a want ad in, or check what sellers may have.
Good luck, and good hunting!
- BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Dec 30, 2022 21:39:11 GMT -5
Photos might help. Is the bottom part of the recorder dropping down properly when it's in position?
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Dec 20, 2022 22:14:45 GMT -5
Is the rack engaging with the feed screw? With the lift lever up, they should be properly meshed. You may have to remove the motor to see what is going on, or at least check under the bedplate behind the grille. If you can get a camera in there, some photos might help.
PS: I have forwarded your question to the Talking Machine Forum, a far more active site: they have a good number of experienced collectors, who may be able to advise you on your problem. if you wish, you could join the site, and get your info directly from the members there. I hope you will find a solution to your dilemma.
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Dec 1, 2022 21:47:41 GMT -5
Another option besides the Model Ds are earlier models that were upgraded with 2/4 minute 'Combination Attachments' after 1908: a good number of Homes and Standards survive with these upgrades. A Standard B, for example, would make an excellent player in your price range, and they are fairly plentiful; you can tell if it has the attachment by the telltale sloping gear cover.
There is also the Fireside A, which was a 2/4 minute machine: it originally came with a K reproducer, which will play both types of cylinders. Without a K, you'll need 2 reproducers, a C and an H.
As for websites: the 'Talking Machine Forum' has a 'Yankee Trader' section, where collectors can post ads of machines, etc. for sale, or want ads. There are also places like Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist, or shops like '4-4 Time'. If you keep looking, you're bound to find something.
Horns: Earlier Edisons often had simple 14" 'witches' hat' horns as standard issue; but if you want a little more volume, you'll need a larger horn, and a crane to support it. There were plenty of 'after market' horns back in the day; practically any of them will fit an Edison. (I wouldn't advise a 'Cygnet' horn, though, if the machine isn't already fitted for one; they can be a bit more expensive, too).
I hope this has been of some help in your search: Happy Hunting!
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Nov 21, 2022 21:33:57 GMT -5
The '30' indicates an Amberola 30, a table model, but you mention drawers. Is it on a separate cylinder cabinet, or was it placed inside an aftermarket cabinet? (Babson Co. offered these). I believe I wrote a post here some years ago, about how to upload photos. If you can find it, it may help: this is where photos would come in quite useful. Here: edisonphonos.proboards.com/thread/2526/ot-adding-photosThe cylinders are probably all Blue Amberols: sometimes they may look almost black, and have a plaster core. There is a spreadsheet online somewhere, giving recording dates, etc. for BAs; you can look it up. I hope this has been of some help to you. BiilS
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Post by lucius1958 on Nov 12, 2022 20:35:08 GMT -5
You're welcome!
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Nov 10, 2022 21:27:46 GMT -5
These look legit to me. As far as I know, nobody is making repro wax Amberol boxes; the repros of Blue Amberol boxes I have seen are the later, pale-blue-and-orange style.
Blue Amberol boxes never had a cotton lining, as they did not need them.
As for repro cylinders themselves, most nowadays are made of resin: for example, a repro Blue Amberol will be solid resin, without any plaster inside. Some older repros, such as Electrophone, were made of vinyl, sometimes with a cardboard core inside. In general, repros have a distinctive weight and feel, different from the originals.
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Oct 29, 2022 19:54:09 GMT -5
I would recommend Wyatt Markus: he does excellent reproducer rebuilds, at reasonable rates. If your diamond is worn, though, that will cost about $100 to replace - but it's worth it. Good luck! BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Oct 21, 2022 20:10:38 GMT -5
I believe the LU-37 was introduced in 1922.
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Oct 4, 2022 20:04:44 GMT -5
What model is it?
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Sept 21, 2022 19:42:43 GMT -5
I’m not sure if it’s okay to post a beautiful C250 that I’d like to sell or to ask where the best place to sell such an Edison? SN 7310 any direction would be appreciated. There's the 'Swap Shop' section here; or, if you prefer, you can join the Talking Machine Forum and post it in their 'Yankee Trader' section. Good luck with the sale! BiilS
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Post by lucius1958 on Sept 13, 2022 21:03:41 GMT -5
Hi: I would recommend the Talking Machine Forum as a good site to join: its membership is much more active and helpful, and they have sections for UK and European resources. You might also include some photos of the phonograph, to aid in finding the correct reproducer etc.
If you are at all handy with tools, or simply want to learn more about machines and restoration, there is also Eric L. Reiss's book, "The Compleat Talking Machine": it is an invaluable asset for any. collector. I hope these suggestions will be of some help.
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Sept 3, 2022 19:27:57 GMT -5
You might have better luck on the Talking Machine Forum: it's much more active.
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Aug 28, 2022 19:56:49 GMT -5
There's a free article on the Antique Phonograph Society website: "Edison C-250 and C-19 Monthly Production Estimates 1915-1925", by Francis W. Pratt. You may be able to get some decent info from there. Francis is also on the Talking Machine Forum, and would welcome entering your machine into the database.
The C-250 is an 'upright' phonograph: the 'console' version would have been named the CC-33 (iirc), and had record storage on either side of the horn. The C-250/C-19 was fairly high up in the model range, but still sold well. There were a number of more expensive models: some of the "Art Case" models cost nearly $1000.
- BillS
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