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Post by lucius1958 on Mar 31, 2022 20:36:36 GMT -5
Data plates on most DD machines (iirc) were placed towards the left front side of the playing compartment. If you look carefully, you may be able to see the holes where it was attached. BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Mar 22, 2022 21:30:09 GMT -5
Hi: what do you want to know, besides the year?
The C-19 was the successor to the C-250, with a few minor changes; introduced in 1919 (hence the designation), and withdrawn from the catalog in 1927. Getting an exact date by serial number may be difficult; but there is a database of C-250/C-19 examples on the Talking Machine Forum, if you search for it: that may give you a rough idea. I hope this helps.
BillS
PS: Another version of the database can be found at antiquephono.org: your serial number suggests that it was probably manufactured around the summer of 1920. if you find any interesting features on the machine (Duncan Automatic Stop; Dance, Edisonic, or Long Play reproducers, or Long Play gearing, etc.), let us know.
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Post by lucius1958 on Feb 5, 2022 23:48:30 GMT -5
Hi: you might have better luck on the Talking Machine Forum. It's a far more active site, with plenty of knowledgeable and helpful members.
My first machine was an Amberola 30, with similar veneer issues: I finally managed to find some veneer at a wood supplies shop. You might check online sources, to find the sort of grain that matches your cabinet. For mechanical issues, I would suggest George Vollema at Great Lakes Antique Phonograph.
You should check your reproducer, too, to make sure the stylus is in good condition; you will probably at least have to replace the gaskets for best performance. You can send it to Wyatt Markus, who is a wizard with Diamond reproducers, and charges very reasonable rates: you will not be disappointed.
You might also get a copy of Eric Reiss's "The Compleat Talking Machine", which is a must-have for any collector and restorer: it has been of great value to me, and many others.
Best of luck with your Amberola!
- BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Jan 26, 2022 23:55:15 GMT -5
"Sheraton" is a reference to a historical furniture style, after Thomas Sheraton (1751-1806). Edison, like many other manufacturers, designed machines in various styles (Sheraton, Chippendale, Adam, Hepplewhite, William & Mary, etc.), to appeal to public tastes. The Sheraton is a rather common model: its fancier sibling, the SI-19, featured some inlay work, and is rarer and more desirable.
I don't know where the seller got that "20th one made" from, but they're most likely wrong: your machine probably dates to the '20s. Yes, the models with "-19" suffixes were introduced in 1919, and most were dropped from the catalogue in 1927. Unfortunately, we don't have detailed info on manufacturing dates for this period, so that will have to do.
If it hasn't been serviced recently, you might want to make sure the motor is properly lubricated (sewing machine oil is preferred), and the reproducers are in good shape: new gaskets will improve the sound, and you should check that the Diamond stylus is not worn or chipped. There are suppliers online, from whom you can get the necessary parts, or to whom you can send parts for rebuilding.
Anyway, you still have a good, enjoyable phonograph, and the 78 adapter makes it more versatile: play it and enjoy!
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Jan 23, 2022 21:34:43 GMT -5
Perhaps this site might be more helpful: ismacs.netBillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Jan 6, 2022 21:40:33 GMT -5
You're welcome!
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Jan 5, 2022 22:14:23 GMT -5
Hi! Have you checked the "Spotter's Guide to the Edison Standard" over on the Antique Phonograph Society's website? www.antiquephono.org/spotters-guide-edison-standard-phonograph/Alternatively, some photos would be helpful. A few details: . Does it have an end gate on the right side of the mandrel? If so, it's probably a Model B (I have a Model B from early 1906, with a SN of 281792); if not, it's a Model C or later. . Does it have 2/4 minute gearing? That was introduced on the Model D in 1908; but earlier models could be upgraded with a "combination attachment". Note: the gear cover on the upgraded models slants toward the back, while the Model D (and later) covers were flat topped. If it is 2 minute only, it's probably a Model B or (less likely) C. Sewing machine oil (NOT "3-in-1"!) is best for lubrication. Oh: as an additional resource, may I suggest joining the Talking Machine Forum? talkingmachine.info/index.php It's a much more lively site than this, with plenty of helpful collectors. Hope that helps. BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Oct 12, 2021 21:59:41 GMT -5
Perhaps your best option would be to replace the governor pinion and shaft.
You might try George Vollema, at Great Lakes Antique Phonograph.
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Sept 10, 2021 20:34:07 GMT -5
That's better.
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Sept 9, 2021 20:37:16 GMT -5
Link to the video doesn't work.
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Sept 2, 2021 21:18:42 GMT -5
So, to adjust the speed, you'll have to take the motor out, and turn the little knurled screw on the governor arm until you get it running at 160 rpm (with the feed screw engaged, of course). May take a little time to get it just right, though. Here's a photo of the Fireside motor: you can see the little screw on the lower left, just on top of the curved arm: BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Sept 2, 2021 21:02:05 GMT -5
Speed control would be under the bedplate. The early tabletop Amberolas such as the DX used surplus Fireside mechanisms, iirc...
Curious that the early post-fire 30, 50, and 75 Amberolas had an external speed control...
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Aug 27, 2021 20:38:44 GMT -5
What model is it? And can you post some photos?
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Aug 14, 2021 20:37:48 GMT -5
The stylus is indeed diamond: it should be a smooth, rounded point. A flat spot will reflect the light, and look like a "facet".
BillS
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Post by lucius1958 on Aug 5, 2021 21:24:34 GMT -5
You might contact George Vollema, at Great Lakes Antique Phonograph, about the parts you need: he has a good inventory. There would probably be no significant change in the motor parts between the A and B models, so that would help.
The most significant expense would be the horn and crane: the model B would have been factory equipped with a Cygnet horn & crane (you should see the 4 screw holes in the back for the crane). It may take time and money; but it's worth it to bring a family heirloom back to life.
BillS
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