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Post by steve on Jan 1, 2008 17:09:16 GMT -5
Hi Bill,
I have sent photos to your one e-mail address.
Steve
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Post by steve on Dec 31, 2007 19:40:06 GMT -5
Hi Bill, I modified the post, I meant 10560 and 10570. 10575 was the highest one released in Sept 1912. Do you have any of the Standard Record boxes? They are fairly hard to find. Sorry. Steve
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Post by steve on Dec 28, 2007 13:10:35 GMT -5
Hi Bill,
What is the latest regular wax record you have? 10560 is regular wax and says A-PAT'D...9 on it and 10570 is the same. These were made up to 1914 even though no new titles came out past Sept 1912. You are correct my Old Jim is the wax amberol wax, after the PATD is has a 26 raised up that you can see. This one is in such nice shape I thought it was regular wax. I stand corrected and happily so.
It appears to me the latest wax records have the mold and take numbers on them, let me know what you think.
Steve
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Post by steve on Dec 20, 2007 12:29:24 GMT -5
Hi Bill,
That is what I am talking about. On the wax amberols you see the rough line from the mold, my copy of "Old Jim's Christmas Hymn" has this line also, does yours? Shawn tells me that the wax two minute records were finished with knives once they came from the mold, he thinks they used heated knives and did it when they were first removed from the mold and were still warm and easier to work with.
Steve
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Post by steve on Dec 18, 2007 17:24:47 GMT -5
Bill,
The wax amberols cylinders have the mold line showing at the bottom at least to number 785 are the later ones like this? The regular two minute cylinders had mold lines but they were removed by Edison on most of the cylinders, 8708 Old Jim's Christmas Hymn retains the mold lines at the bottom because (in my opinion) the grooves go farther to the end.
Steve
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Post by steve on Dec 14, 2007 20:31:46 GMT -5
Hi Bill,
The wax amberol wax batches of 2 minute records are random, the earliest one I have is 10120 and 10570 that I have is the regular wax. The wax amberol wax records in two minute sound good when in excellent condition, when they get worn they have a lot of surface noise and the chip and crack very easily. Luke has a good point, when new the cylinders must have been softer. I have heard even the brown wax are harder now and hold up better. Too bad he used the wax amberol wax, cylinder 10303 by Billy Murray Its moonlight all the time on Broadway is one of the wax amberol wax records and are found worn or broken and that seems to be the only record that has this recording.
Steve
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Post by steve on Dec 14, 2007 20:52:46 GMT -5
The diamond assembly is soldered in. John Nagy de soldered and replaced about five of these for me, he had some diamond assemblies from Expert and after he de soldered them he sent me the old ones. It is very common to think they were plated in, I used to think they were plated in until I read the book below carefully, even the author of the book forgot and said they were plated in. Expert glues theirs in. If anyone want a copy of the page showing the drawing described below send me your e-mail address.
According to Edison Diamond Disc Re-Creations records & artists 1910-1929 page 107:
In this process the diamonds were first silver plated, then mounted on rods with paraffin, plated for 72 hours with nickel layers electro deposited under tension. The styli were thus held under layers of nickel at thousands of pounds of pressure. The nickel-encased diamonds were then polished to conical shape, the nickel at the stylus point being found away as the diamond was polished. The finished stylus was then soldered into its stylus bar. In the early days, bare diamonds were just soldered into bars and were prone to breakage when carelessly lowered onto the record.
The original DD styli were soldered in. The earliest bars have the bare diamond soldered in; the later ones were first plated with nickel and then soldered in. To understand this think of a wooden pencil the diamond is the lead. When the pencil is sharpened the wood is removed and the lead is shaped, the wood is the nickel and the lead is the diamond.
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Post by steve on Dec 2, 2007 17:38:06 GMT -5
Why not just de solder the stylus assembly and transfer it?
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Post by steve on Nov 25, 2007 9:15:29 GMT -5
Luke,
It is very nice to know the history of a phonograph, I am impressed!
Steve
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Post by steve on Nov 25, 2007 9:11:52 GMT -5
I really enjoyed seeing the IV, I had never seen one and forgot they made them. I have met the III in person and it is a nice machine.
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Post by steve on Dec 14, 2007 20:11:35 GMT -5
Shane,
Oct 1910 was when the O first came out, but the cygnet came out in 1909.
Steve
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Post by steve on Dec 2, 2007 17:59:14 GMT -5
Hi Shane,
You had to have the large carriage to use the Model O and since the Model O was the first large carriage reproducer I would be interested in knowing the date on your catalog. My thoughts are below.
The model O upgrade kit came with the adapter and all the parts necessary to adapt the O to the applicable phonograph, I had one for a home that came from Oz.
Edison never gave anything away, the model O cost $10 which was about two weeks wages so I would think that was to prevent someone from ordering one and not being able to use it in the even they had a straight horn. In this way if someone had a straight horn they could be asked if they had a an adapter.
Steve
The Model M is the only reproducer that has kept up with inflation, in my opinion.
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Post by steve on Dec 2, 2007 18:04:46 GMT -5
Hi,
Gear covers sell for around $20 to $30, I might have one. You do not see the grill very often. I just saw two of these on eBay.
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Post by steve on Dec 2, 2007 18:16:50 GMT -5
See if you can get the bushing nickel plated. The bushing is easy on the standard, hard on the home and harder on the triumph. The standard can be broken out, the others have to be drilled. The D-2 is a hard one to find, what reproducer do you have on it and what horn?
Steve
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Post by steve on Jul 2, 2007 19:49:37 GMT -5
Hi Bill,
Thanks again,
I used some flake shellac and a soldering iron and it worked very well. Someone suggested super glue, but I did not like the idea.
Steve
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