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Post by steve on Mar 16, 2007 10:55:28 GMT -5
Peter recommended using a diamond B, he said they would last forever. The reason is this, the more material in a recording on an Edison DD or cylinder the better it sounds with a heavier weight. This is true with the Edisonic vs the regular reproducer and also the larger diaphragm makes a big difference. If you play the Wizard with a model C, a model O, and a diamond B the diamond B sounds the best. My US phono Co of Cleveland 2 minute cylinder Waiting for the Robert E Lee is louder than my C-250 when the cylinder is played with my diamond B and the DD reproducer is a regular one that I have not tuned.
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Post by steve on Mar 15, 2007 21:39:16 GMT -5
In Sept 1912 the last 2 minute titles were made, but 2 minute cylinders were made and sold into 1914. Some of the later 2 minute records are made of the wax amberol wax, you can tell these by the mould line at the bottom that looks like the wax amberol record. These records are normally cracked and unless they are fairly new in condition they have a lot more surface noise.
Peter's records sound best with a Diamond B, they are so well recorded that it takes a Diamond B for them to deliver their full potential. Edison's last two minutes are also extremely well recorded.
Steve
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Post by steve on Jan 23, 2007 19:44:13 GMT -5
Hi Bill,
His prices are alway high, all I can say is this man is not like you.
Steve
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Post by steve on Jan 23, 2007 19:39:32 GMT -5
Shane,
Thanks, I have never seen this one before.
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Post by steve on Jan 17, 2007 20:16:29 GMT -5
Rocky,
In early 1914 two minute records were still being sold by Edison and I do know of one person that gave their early machines to someone else in the mid teens. I also know a man who got a standard B and D as a wedding gift in the early 1920's.
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Post by steve on Jan 17, 2007 20:31:54 GMT -5
Paul,
When I first started to collect I did not want any wax cylinder as I thought they were too fragile. Now I realize after I am gone my wax records will still be there. I recommend getting a standard, one that plays both two and four minute is nice. I like the A and B as they will easily play the Diamond B. Contacting Bill is a good idea and I will give you my opinion on cylinder machines. The Amberola 30 and 50 provide excellent sound for the money, but only play 4 minute plastic records. The Standard upgraded A or B with a shaver is nice because you can shave blanks in 4 minute mode and can listen to any record and make recordings.
What makes Bill outstanding is he is not greedy and is very knowledgeable and enjoys helping people. What makes Edison outstanding to collect is all the variety. What makes this board outstanding is all the nice Edison people.
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Post by steve on Jan 13, 2007 18:42:56 GMT -5
They were available in both wax and blue amberol. The blue amberol special ones are much harder to find.
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Post by steve on Jan 13, 2007 18:40:54 GMT -5
Rocky,
Most of the really good songs on BA are very hard to find.
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Post by steve on Jan 7, 2007 21:16:27 GMT -5
Rocky,
This guy has had some of the nicest lids and boxes I have ever seen. Too bad this entire lot could not have been inherited by you, a person who could have appreciated them all.
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Post by steve on Jan 4, 2007 23:41:51 GMT -5
Some people think the 5000 series of cylinders were electrically dubbed from Electrically recorded DD's.
With regards to electrically recorded cylinders:
As an example, Blue Amberol 5605 is not "Electric-made" It is an acoustic dub of an electric Diamond Disc. Electrically dubbed Blue Amberols did not begin until 5650 and even after that electrical dubs were sporadic until 5700 after which all dubs were electric.
Here are the electrically recorded DD's:
Finnish: 59305-59306 Spanish/Cuban: 60063-60078 60063 is the earliest, released DD electrical matrix. German: 57025-57034 52089 to 52651 for the 50,000 series 80885 to 80907 for the 80,000 series 82351 to 82360 for the 82,000 series Please remember that the 82500 series was not part of the 82000 series.
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Post by steve on Dec 20, 2006 21:56:25 GMT -5
Hi Shane,
I use a shoe brush that is only for my wax cylinder records, you polish in the same direction as the grooves and if the surface is good they will shine up. This works well on dirty records.
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Post by steve on Dec 1, 2006 0:21:59 GMT -5
My brain is worth a fortune, it is NOS and has never been used!
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Post by steve on Nov 28, 2006 14:27:31 GMT -5
From my Ron D letter collection:
The smooth bore Edison 2-minute cylinders were produced around 1906 when Edison was having patent problems and had to stop reaming the bores. Smooth bore cylinders usually have a problem fitting properly on the mandrel. Edison soon went back to the ribbed bores which somehow were easier to gauge.
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Post by steve on Nov 26, 2006 21:37:49 GMT -5
Did you see how nice the box looks?
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Post by steve on Dec 18, 2007 17:17:06 GMT -5
Hi Bill,
On my triumph some reproducers set too low in the adapter so I have had to put 0.020 wire in the adapter to raise the reproducer height. The first adapters were nickel plated brass, the second was iron that was lightly nickeled, then nickel plated pot metal, the final ones are unplated pot metal.
Steve
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