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Post by MT Phono on Feb 6, 2008 11:09:27 GMT -5
Luke -
Glad to hear you are OK! That must have been quite a night.
Steve -
Welcome to the board! More members means more activity, right?
Scott
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Post by MT Phono on Jan 30, 2008 22:50:01 GMT -5
Matt, I'll trade it gladly for another disreputable machine like an Opera or an Amberola I. So is the N-56 worth its princely price, or is it merely an expensive rarity for the Edison enthusiast who has everything? There's a lot of neat material out there on wax amberols, but the cylinders themselves seem to have a bad reputation. I don't think you'll find them sounding any different that a Mod O or the regular Mod N. As far as the Amberols, living in New England and it's temp changes make me steer clear of them unless they were very inexpensive. Over the past 35 yrs I've had more than my share break in my hands or just resting in the box and finding it shattered at a later date! Bill I hear this all the time re: 4-min wax amberols yet I have probably 200 and have only lost one (so far) in 10+ years and that was my fault. Wonder if I am just lucky........ Scott
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Post by MT Phono on Jan 24, 2008 18:44:17 GMT -5
For the life of me I don't get the pricing either. I am certain that a "record guy" could easily point to the prices paid for oddball machines (bringing $10K+ easily) while being a machine guy I could justify it. The only reason I would pay more than $10.00 for a record is if it was historically significant. The last 10 cylinders selling for $2K that were dubbed from easily obtainable DD's doesn't make sense.
To each his own I guess.
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Post by MT Phono on Jan 8, 2008 13:44:38 GMT -5
Great titles! The cylinders with the hard to read titles are U-S Everlasting Indestructible cylinders made in Cleveland. They are easily identifiable by the asphaltum impregnated composition paper core. The other cylinders probably have metal rings in the core at the title ends and the 1902 patent date on the rims. Those are Indestructible cylinders from Albany, NY. Again, go to this website: cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/history-indestructible.phpand read about the various celluloid cylinder types. Luke W. Luke, Just curious - what makes for "good titles"? Collectibility? Value? Just plain fun music? While I have 1000+ cylinders, to this point I have only played 100 or so. I guess you could call me a machine guy. Obviously some of the cylinders are more appealing to me than others - what should I be looking for in terms of good titles? Thanks, Scott
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Post by MT Phono on Dec 14, 2007 10:54:17 GMT -5
Put me on the list of people who want your machine! Absolutely beautiful. The Lyre-grill I-A has to be on the top of most collector's wish list.
How/where was this machine found - antique store, auction, collector, etc?
GREAT find.
Do any of you guys have web sites that show your collections?
Scott
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Post by MT Phono on Sept 27, 2007 23:10:58 GMT -5
Heh, at that price ($123.50) the shipping should be free! At that price it had better be gold or platinum plated!!!
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Post by MT Phono on Sept 16, 2007 19:23:38 GMT -5
If anybody is interested in a project machine or two, I have a couple that I will eventually eBay unless somebody here is interested. They are both Edison Homes. One is an early A with the banner NOT on the lid. Condition is somewhat rough but the motor is strong. Needs a good bath. One nice feature is that it has a 2/4 minute conversion kits attached. It is missing the reproducer. The other is a Home D, in nicer condition. Missing the reproducer and belt but otherwise a nice 2/4 minute machine. Needs to be cleaned but could be a very nice looking machine. At one time it had a cygnet bracket in the back. Motor runs very well and is clean! Make a reasonable offer and they are yours.
Who doesn't need a good winter project?
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Post by MT Phono on Sept 16, 2007 19:41:09 GMT -5
I had to look this one up - thought I knew them all - wrong again!
LukeW is correct. These were made from 1905-1910. I didn't know that M's were manufactured that late except for coin-op use. If you look at the production numbers provided by Frow, the number sold was very low (less than 100 / year). In 1903 only 4 electric machines were sold by Edison.
These have got to be rare beasts.
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Post by MT Phono on Sept 15, 2007 10:45:23 GMT -5
Hey Luke,
<<Excuse the dumb question but I haven't seen a gun-metal finish on phono in person before!>>
How different are the gun metal and nickel plated finishes? Is it subtle?
What is the base material on the 1A - cast iron?
Regards, MTPhono
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Post by MT Phono on Sept 13, 2007 10:07:09 GMT -5
Speaking of Dave Teti's work (or should I say miracle): img404.imageshack.us/img404/6547/dsc0402xmb7.jpgThis was apparently burned worse than yours - the cabinet was completely gone and there was gunk from the fire residue completely covering the M. Every part on this machine is original and was brought back to life by Teti and another phono collector. Obviously I highly recommend Dave Teti too - have faith - your phono will be beautiful once again.
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Post by MT Phono on Sept 15, 2007 10:40:25 GMT -5
That was what I was afraid of. I want the thinner, wider, softer material. Similar to what Columbia used on their cylinder machines. The Columbia material would be my first choice - it has the machined threading along the length of the belt. There has to be a source of that somewhere. The search continues...........
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Post by MT Phono on Sept 6, 2007 10:56:25 GMT -5
Do you have any suggestions of where to find the best belt material for Edison Home/Standard/Gem? I have seen this discussed online but can't seem to locate them now.
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Post by MT Phono on Aug 31, 2007 14:46:18 GMT -5
I don't have my Edison books handy at the moment but it looks like it is an Edison Standard "A", banner front. It appears to have been converted to 2/4 minute operation (little cluster of upper gearing). It is missing the gear cover. Crank looks to be wrong too.
I don't see a lot of value in this machine - maybe $100-150US, mainly as a parts or project machine. Even that may be too high.
The horn appears to be a poor reproduction too. Little to no value in that.
Sorry but that is just my two cents.
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Post by MT Phono on Aug 19, 2007 11:34:21 GMT -5
I guess my original intent was to find out what the people with larger collections of machines were doing. It is still interesting to find out how smaller collections are displayed as well. I like the idea of a "dance room".
I have many more machines than I can easily display in a single room so am faced with a dilemma. Do I sell off the "extras"? Or try fit them in and have way too many machines around the house? When we built our house my architect insisted on including a "Gramophone Room" which has become my office/library/phono collection. No way to fit them all in though. Decisions, decisions.
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Post by MT Phono on Aug 17, 2007 14:57:31 GMT -5
I am curious how you display your collection. Are they: 1. Crammed into a single room 2. Displayed throughout the house 3. Forced by spouse to be kept in the shop/garage 4. Combination of the above 5.
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